Called for Jury Service -advice needed

MRSTITTLEMOUSE

I got called,re-arranged everything for those two weeks to be phoned the day before saying they'd over called in jurors and I would'nt be needed.
Even though I was dreading the experience,I could of throttled them.

Katyag

Janepig wrote: »

It's not me that picks who goes mind!!!!!!

I don't know how often this would happen anyway - it would be interesting to know whether providing childcare for jurors is a common occurrence.

Jxx

That intrigued me too. My eldest is in school 9-3 my youngest is not even 2 yet so no need for childcare as I am a SAHM. I would have no idea about finding childcare, espp short term. My family have their own working commitments so wouldnt have able to help, my friends have their own children so their own commitments too.

Would be really hard and awkward to sort out, expensive too!

hermanmunster_3

Katyag wrote: »

She thought she wouldnt be called again since her disease is on-going and no real cure (she is awaiting surgery to see if that helps but no guarantee) but it makes you wonder if they read the docs letter or just not pay much attention!

Most Grave's Disease per se(the actual autoimmune hyperthyroidism) resolves on treatment so they wouldn't permanently take someone off the list. The eye complications are rarer and more difficult to treat and don't happen in all cases of Graves.

shirlgirl2004

thatgirlsam wrote: »

not sympathetic at all im afraid - i was told 'we pay for childcare, its not a reason not to do it'

i did find it interesting though

I told them I didn't have child care and was excused. I didn't work and my children were not at school. You can't pull trusted child carers from thin air.

milliebear00001

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

I told them I didn't have child care and was excused. I didn't work and my children were not at school. You can't pull trusted child carers from thin air.

Absolutely! I'd fight tooth and nail to get out of it if the alternative was sticking my children into childcare I didn't want, know or trust! The point is, it's not just the adult involved, who's being affected - what about their children's well-being?! Jury service can take months in a drawn-out case. I really don't see how you can be expected to do it unless your financial and family circumstances enable you to.

Katyag

hermanmunster wrote: »

Most Grave's Disease per se(the actual autoimmune hyperthyroidism) resolves on treatment so they wouldn't permanently take someone off the list. The eye complications are rarer and more difficult to treat and don't happen in all cases of Graves.

Yes shes on treatment for her thyriod but it wont cure it. She does have the eye complications and is awaiting eye surgery but the hospital it told her it doesnt work for everyone and might not work first time either.

Janepig

milliebear00001 wrote: »

Absolutely! I'd fight tooth and nail to get out of it if the alternative was sticking my children into childcare I didn't want, know or trust! The point is, it's not just the adult involved, who's being affected - what about their children's well-being?! Jury service can take months in a drawn-out case. I really don't see how you can be expected to do it unless your financial and family circumstances enable you to.

But, and i'm not necessiarily disagreeing with you, just playing devils advocate, it comes back to inclusivity. Are you saying that those with young families and/or on a low income should be exempt from jury service? How can you then say that a jury is truly representative of a cross section from all of society? It's not like you'd be expected to send your child to an orphanage for the duration of the jury service - it's a registered child care provider for afew hours a day. Just because you wouldn't trust them doesn't mean they're not trustworthy - who knows, the child might enjoy it!

How often it would happen though is another thing - as it seems from one reply that the no childcare excuse will at least get you deferred.

Jxx

milliebear00001

Janepig wrote: »

But, and i'm not necessiarily disagreeing with you, just playing devils advocate, it comes back to inclusivity. Are you saying that those with young families and/or on a low income should be exempt from jury service? How can you then say that a jury is truly representative of a cross section from all of society? It's not like you'd be expected to send your child to an orphanage for the duration of the jury service - it's a registered child care provider for afew hours a day. Just because you wouldn't trust them doesn't mean they're not trustworthy - who knows, the child might enjoy it!

How often it would happen though is another thing - as it seems from one reply that the no childcare excuse will at least get you deferred.

Jxx

My child, my choice. I don't care in the least about other people's preferences or beliefs about childcare - NOBODY should be able to force me to put my child into daycare - especially if the child has no prior experience of this, and might be extremely upset by being placed with strangers for an open-ended period of time. The breastfeeding issue is also a killer in this. There is no way breastfeeding mothers should be forced to introduce bottle feeds if they choose not to.

I agree that juries need to be representative, but I am at a loss how to achieve this without seriously compromising other people's lives. It seriously seems that some people could lose their homes or be bankrupted by the process - surely this is not acceptable.

Janepig

milliebear00001 wrote: »

My child, my choice. I don't care in the least about other people's preferences or beliefs about childcare - NOBODY should be able to force me to put my child into daycare - especially if the child has no prior experience of this, and might be extremely upset by being placed with strangers for an open-ended period of time. The breastfeeding issue is also a killer in this. There is no way breastfeeding mothers should be forced to introduce bottle feeds if they choose not to.

I agree that juries need to be representative, but I am at a loss how to achieve this without seriously compromising other people's lives. It seriously seems that some people could lose their homes or be bankrupted by the process - surely this is not acceptable.

Again, I don't know how often people who might experience real hardship would be called, and I don't think anyone is "forced", possibly someone will come on here with a story of someone who is. I don't think anyone who is breastfeeding would be "forced" to go and a deferrment would normally cover that period of time anyway.

It is a "civic duty" for the greater good of society, but alot of people don't see past their own four walls. Possibly including myself because as I've said, I'd try all ways to get out of it and I work in the system!

Jxx

shirlgirl2004

Janepig wrote: »

But, and i'm not necessiarily disagreeing with you, just playing devils advocate, it comes back to inclusivity. Are you saying that those with young families and/or on a low income should be exempt from jury service? How can you then say that a jury is truly representative of a cross section from all of society? It's not like you'd be expected to send your child to an orphanage for the duration of the jury service - it's a registered child care provider for afew hours a day. Just because you wouldn't trust them doesn't mean they're not trustworthy - who knows, the child might enjoy it!

How often it would happen though is another thing - as it seems from one reply that the no childcare excuse will at least get you deferred.

Jxx

There are plenty of people with young children that already put their children into daycare so let those be the parents that attend Jury service not those whose children have no experience of being looked after by people other than their parents.