Banned Items - Offensive material?

amcluesent

Is there a classified section on https://www.bnp.org.uk?

chja

No problem selling it on Amazon - 1943 edition currently listed for £200.

Interesting arguement about the ownership / selling of it. Like it or not, it is one of the most significant works in modern times. I hope that it would be purchased by someone with a genuine interest in studying the history of it and the discontent that caused it to be written in the first place (perhaps drawing some modern parallels), and not by some BNP thug.

To burn it would be to deny it's existance. Failure to understand history is one of the biggest mistakes that can be made.

jasmineswhiskers

The swastika symbol on the statue is the 'good luck' version. The nazi swastika was rotated 45degrees. (And it also faces right although the original good luck swastika faced either way).

geri1965_2

Wouldn't the first edition be in German?

TurkishDelight

Is it not a fyfot (scuse spelling) if it's the other way round? That's what I was always taught anyway, but it's probably wrong

el_gringo_3

stevew8975 wrote: »

Indeed - and having spent time studying in Germany, visiting sites, speaking to survivors and also some elderly people who were involved, there is a generation growing up that are ignorant of, or just do not understand the magnitude of significance of what occured relatively recently right on our doorstep.

I'm pretty astounded by this comment, and as a member of this generation you speak of i'd like to point a few things out, but I genuinely don't know where to start.

I think i'll just say that it is the very generation you speak ill of that are providing one of the few political outlets in Europe left for those that wish to stand up for the civil liberties your parents and grandparents fought for, such as the freedom to cross borders when you please and worship whoever or whatever takes your fancy. The same generation in the UK are voting the BNP in, calling for protectionism for 'British people', opposing the building of mosques and coming home from the Middle East in bodybags. Yes, like all countries we have our bad eggs - but I feel many of our good eggs are actually doing something about it.

I'm sorry you found most younger Germans to be ignorant of the events surrounding the war, but I can't help but suggest that you were in the wrong place or meeting the wrong people, most of us are very aware of this period in our history, and I think the recent media (such as films like Der Untergang or Die Fälscher) that we are producing is a testement to that.

rsykes2000

el_gringo wrote: »

I'm pretty astounded by this comment, and as a member of this generation you speak of i'd like to point a few things out, but I genuinely don't know where to start.

I think i'll just say that it is the very generation you speak ill of that are providing one of the few political outlets in Europe left for those that wish to stand up for the civil liberties your parents and grandparents fought for, such as the freedom to cross borders when you please and worship whoever or whatever takes your fancy. The same generation in the UK are voting the BNP in, calling for protectionism for 'British people', opposing the building of mosques and coming home from the Middle East in bodybags. Yes, like all countries we have our bad eggs - but I feel many of our good eggs are actually doing something about it.

I'm sorry you found most younger Germans to be ignorant of the events surrounding the war, but I can't help but suggest that you were in the wrong place or meeting the wrong people, most of us are very aware of this period in our history, and I think the recent media (such as films like Der Untergang or Die Fälscher) that we are producing is a testement to that.

The post was a bit ambiguous,but I definitely had the feeling he was referring to a generation in the UK.

soolin

I also thought this was aimed at the UK rather than German 'youngsters'. I also believe it is because young people are not generally taught modern history to any great depth nowadays that some of the more extreme parties are able to do so well in the polls.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Pupils_think_Auschwitz_is_a_beer&in_article_id=573329&in_page_id=34

frivolous_fay

soolin wrote: »

I also thought this was aimed at the UK rather than German 'youngsters'. I also believe it is because young people are not generally taught modern history to any great depth nowadays that some of the more extreme parties are able to do so well in the polls.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Pupils_think_Auschwitz_is_a_beer&in_article_id=573329&in_page_id=34

IIRC.... my education on WW2 consisted of a few weeks of the curriculum when I was about 13.

StaffsSW

el_gringo wrote: »

I'm pretty astounded by this comment, and as a member of this generation you speak of i'd like to point a few things out, but I genuinely don't know where to start.

Sorry - just to clarify - it was the UK generation I was referring to. I've always found mainland European teens and students to much more socially and politically aware (mature..?) than their UK peers.