Bought dog and gave back to breeder who won't give money back

*onlyme*

Totally agree with Terrierlady and loates123...

A good breeder would have made sure your mum was the right person for the dog and the dog for your mum. Sounds more like a back yard breeder to me...

out to make some quick money without any consideration who or where the puppy will end up.

Give me a reputable rescue dog any day, where homechecks are done, dogs assessed, families assessed etc.

Sam1903

Gazfaz wrote: »

I'd get the dog back and then get it put down so the cheeky cow does not have the benefit of selling it again.

What type of dog is it by the way?

My mate collects them and has them stuffed. He's on the lookout for a Westie.

Not funny this is apoor animal we are talking about.
I have a Westie, and if your mate was to try and collect her, he would be getting stuffed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mr_knight

We have a dog which was given back to the breeder. The breeder then gave him to us. The breeder did not give the original owner any of the £600 back that they paid for him nor did she charge us a penny for taking him on (she did check he would go to a loving and caring home).

Our dog was not so lucky he had 5 miserable months with his original owners and now has so many problems (some which we are just starting to over come and some which we will never solve). This is purely down to someone irresponsible taking on a puppy and not thinking about the consequences.

This poor puppy has been messed around at a really important time of its life.

I don't think your mum should get any money back but on the same token the breeder should be looking for a new home without charging the new owners (checking it will be a good one should be more important to them). Any breeder worth anything will have owners sign a contract about the dog. If we don't want our dog any more we have to give it back to them and no one else.

Maybe your mum should have thought things through more carefully, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. She might be better with a calmer older rescue dog but only if she is actually going to be responsible and keep the dog.

spa2k

Laughin @ gazfaz, i take you comments completely tongue in cheek, quite amusing......however

this whole thread simply reinforces my view that dog licenses should be reinstated. If people had to pay a hefty sum in order to have the right to own a dog before even puchasing the animal then maybe they would think twice. All that has happened here is that the poor dog will have been primed with a sense of insecurity which the next owner will have to train out of them. I feel sorry for your mum but you all should have been a bit more sensible and thought about what you were doing. Why on earth was someone who suffers from panic attacks and anxiety buying a dog who needs walking and daily exercise?

I know that when we bought our dog the breeder made it very clear that if we couldnt cope she would happily take the dog back but NO money would be refunded.

neas

agree with rest of people just because a dog has a value assocaited with it doesnt mean you can simply get a refund for it.

Its a living animal, and your not letting on what damage your mother has done to dog... i.e if its been neglected and not loved etc, or not fed then its gonna be t screwed up in head.

Its like buying a microwave then taking the door off and smashing the glass and expecting a refund.. it wont happen.

sticher

I have to agree with the posters who say let it be an expensive lesson. Puppies need ALOT of time and energy put into them - and should not be taken on lightly. If this happened to more people then word would get about and people would think more carefully before taking on what could possibly be a 10 year or more commitment.

mookiandco

Whilst I agree that the OP's mother has no automatic right to have her money back, £500 is alot of money and it is a very expensive lesson to learn. However, the OP's mother is unwell, she got the dog on the basis that she truly believed she could care for him and she did not become unwell on purpose. No doubt the OPs mother is heartbroken. To lose £500 is an added blow.

We have bred dogs for years and always stipulate that we will have the dog returned to us for any reason if the owner cannot care for them. We remain in touch with every single person who has purchased a dog from us and hold a party every year when all our doggies and their owners come back.

Whilst I accept that reputable breeders (as I like to think we are) will do their utmost to ensure that they choose the right owner for a pup, sadly we can only go on what we see and what we are told. We have turned people down on a few occasions. No doubt the OPs mum was in a good frame of mind and came across well when she went to buy the dog. The breeder probably could not tell that the OPs mother had underlying problems that would resurface.

In all the years of breeding we have had pups only returned to us twice. The first time was when the lady had purchased the pup without telling her husband. The husband contacted us a few days later and told us that they dearly wanted to keep the pup but infact the lady had cancer and they were not sure whether she had long to live. He feared that if she passed away he could not care for the pup. We accepted the pup back and did not feel that it was fair on the pup to be resold to another home so we kept her. We refunded the ladies money in full including her deposit.

The second time, the lady called a week after taking the dog. She said she had not been out of the house since getting the pup because she could not leave the pup on her own even for a few minutes as quite simply she loved her too much and could not bear to leave her. The lady realised she had made a mistake. She returned the pup and we gave her a cheque for the full amount paid. The lady did not want to take it but we insisted. We later sold the pup to someone who had previously had one of our pups. We did not sell her for the same amount as the first lady but it was more important that the pup went to a good home as soon as possible.

The amounts we sell our pups for can be as much as £1500. If it was as much money as this I wonder how many people would still feel that the OPs mother deserves to lose such a huge amount.

In these circumstances I would suggest that the OP speak to the breeder directly and explain the circumstances. I would certainly not encourage the OP to get the dog back as she has already said she cant look after it. The dog requires stability and quickly. If she paid a deposit perhaps she could ask for the rest of the amount minus the deposit. The OP should not demand or insist and should show some sympathy to the breeder who has no doubt spent the money and does not have it readily to hand. Perhaps say that she would be willing to wait a couple of weeks to give the breeder time to get the money together or accept it in installments. Perhaps offer to pay for or assist with placing an ad in the local paper to readvertise the dog.

This is a sad situation for all concerned, especially the dog and I hope that the OP manages to resolve it amicably with the breeder.

NaughtyAngel2007

Bit silly to hand over the dog without getting the money in hand really. hope you get some or all your money back. is sad for the puppy being passed around tho . C.A.B will help you look into it , there brill.

missingink

*onlyme* wrote: »

Totally agree with Terrierlady and loates123...

A good breeder would have made sure your mum was the right person for the dog and the dog for your mum. Sounds more like a back yard breeder to me...

out to make some quick money without any consideration who or where the puppy will end up.

Give me a reputable rescue dog any day, where homechecks are done, dogs assessed, families assessed etc.

There are so many of these breeders out there-just in it to make a quick buck with no regard for the welfare of the dogs.

We have three rescue dogs, one of which is a pedigree that we rehomed from owners who bought him from a reputable breeder when he was a puppy, but decided they didn't want him anymore when he was seven months old.

There are so many dogs out there looking for their forever homes & an awful lot of them are 'pure breed' puppies. I urge anyone looking for a dog to try rescues first. Reputable ones give you all the background info they can, a lot are fostered so you know what they are like in the home environment, you get on going support from the rescue when you adopt the dog & if it doesn't work out for any reason, they will accept the dog back & find it a loving home.

How many 'breeders' will offer that kind of service?

jenniewb

Can of worms here! (lol)

OK, I think the OP wanted legal advice if not general advice on what steps to take- though the problem may look like its easy to lay the blame with whichever party, I don't really think thats what the OP was asking for- I think he/she wanted to know what steps to take. And if any of the money is retrievable- and I think its safe to say the mother will have learnt her lesson and probably will not be buying a dog again- (unless shes really daft).

OP, I do think that as trading laws go, the breeder has no legal grounds to give you a refund, or even take the dog back. But as they have said outright when you explained the problem, they would refund you when they got any money back.

I guess what your saying is that now they will not be refunding you as they are unable to sell- have you thought about trying to help get it sold? It is in your interest to get it sold as early on as you can as the longer you wait, the older the puppy and the less likely it will be to be sold. Sorry, people are shallow.
If the breeder/s look after the dog as oppose to your mum, this leaves her or you or the family to start looking, putting up notices in pet stores- but make very sure you interview whoever asks for the dog- it may not have happened in your case, but it should happen with any reputable dog breeder- you wouldn't give away a baby without interviewing perspective adoptee families, and a dog is no different, its a living creature with the ability to have equal demands to that of a small child and requires people who can deal with as much.

Good luck.