oi what you doing here

Karmacat

elantan wrote: »

well to be honest it is very close to what i want to do...the earth ship is bang on what i want thankfully ...but like you say i am looking for sustainability etc ...i was hoping to do veg growing allotment /chickens /ducks etc (the fife one has all of this) ..solar panel/reed bed/ water wheels etc etc... they will have solar panels in this one but that is it as far as i know...this one is more for the conservation of current plant/tree life ...i quite fancied it so that the community could learn how to do all these things for themselves ...if that makes any sense possibly not as i aint a good explainer lol

Of course it does. Maybe you can be the one to bring the solar panel/reed bed/water wheels to theone thats close by?

ZTD wrote: »

Don't go betting on rising temperatures. The hottest temperatures in recent history were associated with the 1998 El Nino, and that's over a decade old now. Both the AMO and the PDO are turning downwards, and the sun is quiet (sunspot wise) in a spooky, spooky way. That usually portends very cold weather through a currently unknown mechanism.

You're right, I know - certainly we're predicted to have less intense rises, and maybe falls, in the next 10 years.... And I wish we knew more about how the sunspot cycle interacts with our weather. Something to do with the solar wind?

AMO and PDO ... so much to learn.....

Karmacat

Ooh... AMO ... Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation! erm, not the trade union for magistrates court staff?

ZTD

Karmacat wrote: »

You're right, I know - certainly we're predicted to have less intense rises, and maybe falls, in the next 10 years.... And I wish we knew more about how the sunspot cycle interacts with our weather. Something to do with the solar wind?

Well that's the thing. Spots are little "knots" of magnetism that stops the convection current coming from the core to the surface of the sun. They aren't actually black - enough heat is there to make them super-fantastically-hot - it's just the rest of the sun is mega-fantastically-hot so they are dark in comparison.

They aren't big enough (fractions of a percent of the suns disk) or cool enough (still 5000K) to affect the suns output in any measurable way, they don't affect the solar wind in any measurable way, they don't kick out lumps of material like flares do.

But they still affect weather on this planet, or are co-incident with something that affects weather on this planet. If you know how, you can get your name up in lights...

The solar wind, independently of sunspots, affects cloud cover. Basically speaking the solar wind keeps the galactic cosmic rays at bay (mostly). When it doesn't, the cosmic rays come through our atmosphere and act as seeds for cloud formation. We are basically living in a giant cloud chamber so we then get lots of cloud.

Google for "forbush events clouds" for the whole bit on it.

There is speculation that depending where on the galactic plane we are (we oscillate "North" and "South") dictates how much of the cosmic rays we get and so dictates our weather.

Karmacat wrote: »

AMO and PDO ... so much to learn.....

Oops sorry Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation and Pacific Decadal Oscillation - a couple of cycles of warming and cooling in the relevant areas. Just two of the *many* cycles in our ecosystem.

Starts off at "day" and "night", then heads upwards...

elantan

that all sounds very interesting will look it up z thanks ...i have to admit i dont always believe it when they say global warming is caused by us humans ...yes i know we have to take alot of the blame but the sun has to have something to so with it as well was watching some discovery channel stuff about solar flares and the magnetic stuff interesting ...just wish i could remember the words

Karmacat

Thanks Z, will look at the Forbush thingy - the only AMO ref that was right, I found on Wikipedia, which isn't terribly terribly .... thats interesting about the galactic plane thing too.

elantan

hola everyone , hope your all well on this lovely sunday morning ...have done my pad's my scratchies 30p woohoo...and first quidco click ...

Karmacat

Hola! Not sunny here, but good enough, all my windows are open to freshen everything up.

elantan

well i did some of this bingoing done not too bad ...am gonna try for the free games now

hypno06

Lucky lemons glglglgl

elantan

cheers ...can you tell me roughly what time the free games are ? infact i will pm