Dog fowling fine

king100

Ask did they take a sample of the poo, which should have dna, then get it tested against your dog. Surely its up to them to prove that its your dogs poo.

If is definately isnt then they will burden the cost of the test.

Alternatively you could ask for a lineup and ask the officer to pick out which dog he saw in the act of the offence.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1132947/German-town-DNA-test-dogs-fight-pooch-poop.html

*Vikki*

bargepole wrote: »

Need to gain: A basic grasp of written English!

Sorry:ov, I know that one too:rolleyes: I am not very good with my English. I had English lessons as well last year, still not much better. Feel bad now It's sometimes my Mac though that corrects me!

Sounds like you need to slow down though!

*Vikki*

My mums dog didn't poo, but having read these threads sounds like she will have to pay it! So annoyed though!

jkdd77

She shouldn't pay if she's innocent- remember they have to prove their case to the criminal standard of proof, and your mother would be able to cross-examine the witnesses to highlight any inconsistencies in their statements.

If your mother claims the poo was left by another dog then it is up to them to prove otherwise.

In many cases FPNs that are not accepted never actually go any further because the CPS doesn't have a realistic prospect of getting a conviction.

As for costs, if your mother is acquited then she will be able to reclaim some costs, at the judge's discretion.

peter_the_piper

I'd still like to know if they gave her the ticket straight after the "event" or at some time later. If later how could they prove beyond doubt her pet was guilty, unless they now have little cameras like the CEO's do.

RabbitMad

Volcano wrote: »

They don't have the power of arrest, though it is an offence not to give your name to 'authorised officers' who read you the "It is an offence, when questioned not to say something you later rely on in court......" etc.

Don't you mean "You do not have to say anything unless you wish to do so, but it may harm your defence if you fail to mention when questioned something that you later rely on in court"

Haven't watched the bill for a while so I might have forgotten the wording. But my advice to any council busy body would be to go forth and multiple unless they had a copper there. If they don't have your name they can't fine you.

Volcano

RabbitMad wrote: »

If they don't have your name they can't fine you.

Volcano wrote:

Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005, Part 6, Chapter 1, Section 61:

"Section 61 provides an authorised officer of a primary or secondary authority with the power to require the name and address of a person if the officer proposes to give him a fixed penalty notice, and makes it an offence for that person either to fail to give that information or to give false or inaccurate information."

If you're committing the above offence then they can call the police, who will arrest you if necessary and take you to the station until they can establish your true identity.

my advice to any council busy body would be to go forth and multiple

If there's anything guaranteed to perk up a bored council worker's mundane afternoon of spying on pooing dogs, it would be the thought of the rude dog owner who'll be quivering in court in a few months time, regretting their bravado as they end up with a criminal record and a several hundred quid fine.

Coblcris

However the council are enforcing under S.I 2006/1059 are they not ?

Neil_B

Coblcris wrote: »

However the council are enforcing under S.I 2006/1059 are they not ?

is there a list of correct diagrams for pavements where you may not poop in that? I mean, was the area of pooping non-compliantly marked?

Soooooooorrrryy. Coat please.

Doodles22

Neil_B wrote: »

is there a list of correct diagrams for pavements where you may not poop in that? I mean, was the area of pooping non-compliantly marked?

Soooooooorrrryy. Coat please.

You are busy tonight aren't you.
Why don't you go and watch some shopping channels :rolleyes:

Or maybe get some rest, I'm sure all this moaning has made you tired:rolleyes: