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ebay fraud from servicepaypalonline@mail2pal.com?

sold two laptops and i just got this email - looks fake?

You have been sent a PayPal® payment of 2760.00 GBP for an ebay item (110412010965) from one of our Member Micheal Bill ([EMAIL="dstv6005@gmail.com"]dstv6005@gmail.com[/EMAIL]) for a recent item purchased from you..

Money Request Details


Buyer's Payment Information:


Payment Type Mastercard
Name on Card Micheal Bill

Card Number 5491*******67412
Expiry Date mm/yy 07/11

Card Holder Address ***************



Shipping Information:


Shipping Method :POST Sign for International Delivery Abroad.
Paypal Ordered Confirmation and approved. The shipping address below as an international delivery. You are required to make the shipment before your account can be credited.
Below Is The Confirmed Shipping Information As Shown In The Payment Credit Card.

Shipping Info:

Name: Wole Tunde
Address: 8 Dada StreetCity: Ifako AgegeCountry: NigeriaZip-Code: 23401Tel: [IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_transparent_l.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/famfamfam/ng.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/arrow.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG][IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif[/IMG]+234-018742769[IMG]chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_transparent_r.gif[/IMG]


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Money paid Details:

Payment from: ([EMAIL="dstv6005@gmail.com"]dstv6005@gmail.com[/EMAIL])
Payment to: ([EMAIL="mr_dormin_jinx@hotmail.com"]**************@hotmail.com[/EMAIL])
Seller Ebay Id: stevencarter21
Item Amount: 2600.00 GBP
Item Quantity: 2
Postage & Packing: 160.00 GBP
Postal Insurance: 00.00 GBP
Total Amount: 2760.00 GBP
Item Title : Asus N70SV-TY057C Core 2 Duo P8700 2.53GHz 4GB(110412010965) and

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This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED" but will not be credited to your account until the shipment tracking number is sent to our customer's service for shipment verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. Below are the necessary information requested before your account will be credited.

1 : Make sure the approved mail contains the total amount for the item bought.


2 : Make sure you ship the item to the address the Paypal given address above, immediately you receive this approved confirmation.


3 : Make sure the shipment tracking number is sent to our customer's service for shipment verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. Make sure the shipment tracking number is sent to us ONLY through:
(servicepaypalonline@mail2pal.com).


4 :Shipment Tracking Number is the number given to you at the point of posting,quote this number and send this to our customer service at (servicepaypalonline@mail2pal.com).

5 : Make sure the shipment tracking number is mailed to us ONLY and not the buyer. We thank you for your prompt attention.

Please understand that this is a security measure intended to help protect you and your account.. We apologize for any inconvenience.
You can contact our customer service care at: (servicepaypalonline@mail2pal.com)

Thanks for using PayPal®. We look forward in serving you online payment.
Sincerely.

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  • lallysmum
    lallysmum Posts: 418 Forumite
    It's a fake. You haven't been paid. Don't send the item!

    Regulars will be along with further info soon, I'm sure. But yes, fake!
  • cyberbob
    cyberbob Posts: 9,480 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Always check your paypal account directly for payment (dont follow links)
  • jinxjinx
    jinxjinx Posts: 55 Forumite
    just checked it and there isnt anything thereabout it, how can i let ebay know? ebay took nearly £60 in final value credit will i get that back?
  • cyril82
    cyril82 Posts: 948 Forumite
    One of the oldest scams around. ignore the email, if you want to report it forward it to [EMAIL="spoof@paypal.com"]spoof@paypal.com[/EMAIL].

    If the transaction is not showing in your paypal account never send goods out.

    Paypal do hold funds until goods are shipped and feedback is left or 21 day's passes but only in certain circumstances and even then the money will show in your account so if you can't see it in your account you haven't been paid.
  • soolin
    soolin Posts: 73,395 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    What you need to do now is let ebay know there are scammers around, use live help as you may get more sense from them. If you get someone that understands they may allow you to start the full NPB immediately due to fraud, at worse you'll have to wait until a full 7 days has elapsed and start the NPB then. Once that NPB is completed you get your FVFs recredited.

    Next thing to do is rewrite your auctions. Set your seller preferences tighter to exclude unwanted bidders and my own personal view would be to limit these electrical sales to UK only. You could also put a note on the new auction that you do not ship abroad and are familiar with the 419 scam.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
  • soolin
    soolin Posts: 73,395 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Have they pulled the auctions completely as your history doesn't show any such sales even on an advanced search?

    Also, and if I don't say it someone else will, I can't see that you are correctly registered as a business seller?

    Hmm, even curiouser the 'seller' id hadn't sold anything since 2008 and suddenly just started selling high end electrical goods, all stock photos and no feedback left at all for any recent sales. 7-10 dispatch time (just enough time for funds to be pulled to a bank account).

    If the seller ID is correct and this had been th ebuyer asking a question instead of the seller then I would assume the seller to be a scammer..but then i may have missed something of course.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
  • frivolous_fay
    frivolous_fay Posts: 13,302 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Here's the ebay Q&A tried and tested anti-scammer routine:

    http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threadID=1100141048&tstart=0&mod=1201174617718
    My TV is broken! :cry:
    Edit: refunded £515 for TV 1.5 years out of warranty - thank you Sale of Goods Act! :j
  • cyril82
    cyril82 Posts: 948 Forumite
    Sometimes Soolin you can be a little harsh and over critical without just cause.

    the guy has an established account, has sold occasional items over a year or so and received good feedback.

    Perhaps he isn't registered as a business seller because he's not a business, i mean, 21 feedbacks in just over 1 year, only 11 of them sales, doesn't sound like much of a business to me.
  • soolin
    soolin Posts: 73,395 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Selling multiple BINs of high end electrical items is a business. You can't really pretend otherwise.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
  • cyril82
    cyril82 Posts: 948 Forumite
    selling two laptops hardly constitutes being a business, i have two spare old ones i could sell tomorrow, even if he is a business it must be early day's and he doesn't have to register immediately, he might not sell anything else, doesn't make him a scammer either.

    I see where you are coming from with the sudden high end sales but i don't think that is enough evidence to publicly brand or imply someone is a scammer
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