School Insurance For Pupils Property

Shockingman

Wow what a can of worms! Now to answer each worm individually

TBH I doubt that you will be able to get anything from the school as all schools make it a policy of not being liable for property that pupils/staff have brought onto the premises unless it has been confiscated from a pupil by a teacher which means that the teacher/school is liable while it is under their care. Their policy is usually written into the prospectus, it will be interesting to see if you get anywhere or stonewalled.

The phone was in the care of the school as they said they'd lock it up

Was there any mention in your home/school agreement about not letting children bring expensive equipment such as phones, ipods etc. to school?

Most of her peers take phones and ipods in, there was no agreement to my knowledge to say they are not allowed .. the school allows it as long as they are switched off in lessons.. although ipods are allowed in Art for some periods.

Was it a handbag or a schoolbag?

Handbag, as this strictly was a leaving assembly only with all lessons and exams finished in the previous weeks.

For a minute can we forget blaming the school. Has the OP reported to the phone network and the police that the phone was stolen? The phone/sim and its location can be traced.

The phone was reported stolen to the network... but not the police as it's unlikely they'll do anything other than give us a crime number... the sim is probably not traceable once the thief had taken it out of the phone... would you leave it in there? The sim was paygo with a couple of quid credit.

my DD school kids are allowed mobiles but they take them at their own risk, how much of a schools budget would be taken by insurance if they paid out for things like this.

Surely the risk changes when A teacher removes them for safe?? keeping?

What next? I have emailed Connexions to see if they can help and may try the CAB From what I have read the school is liable as they allow mobiles in school and it was temporarily confiscated whilst the Leavers assembly was held, my daughter said she was not the first back into the classroom and did not see the first person go back in.

Just having spoke to my daughter... she said that one teacher asked them to leave their bags in the room.. they were told it would not be locked (sorry I got that bit wrong) and apparently another teacher said they could of took their bags into the assemble anyway it was not an issue! so the first teacher that asked them to leave them in the class was wrong to do so!

busiscoming2

A very difficult situation and I can't be of any help, but will be very interested in the outcome.

Blackpool_Saver

busiscoming2 wrote: »

A very difficult situation and I can't be of any help, but will be very interested in the outcome.

me too, post too short etc etc............

noh

Shockingman wrote: »

Just having spoke to my daughter... she said that one teacher asked them to leave their bags in the room.. they were told it would not be locked (sorry I got that bit wrong) and apparently another teacher said they could of took their bags into the assemble anyway it was not an issue! so the first teacher that asked them to leave them in the class was wrong to do so!

Your daughter was aware the room would not be locked but she failed to take reasonable care by leaving her phone in the bag. It would have been a simple matter for her to remove the phone and keep it on her person.
I can't see how the school has any liabilty in this matter.

geri1965_2

Leaving 30 handbags in an unlocked room would be negligent in my view. If someone asked me to leave my handbag in such circumstances, I would refuse.

I successfully claimed against a hotel who left my coat on a coat rack outside a function room, as opposed to being in a cloakroom with an attendant - it is entirely forseeable that someone could take it, either by accident or on purpose.

Kittian_the_Blue

geri1965 wrote: »

Leaving 30 handbags in an unlocked room would be negligent in my view. If someone asked me to leave my handbag in such circumstances, I would refuse.

I successfully claimed against a hotel who left my coat on a coat rack outside a function room, as opposed to being in a cloakroom with an attendant - it is entirely forseeable that someone could take it, either by accident or on purpose.

Hotels have a strict liability under the Hotel Proprietors Act 1956 and would therefore be duty bound to reimburse you.

In this case I would think it difficult to see that the school will have to pick up the claim - the school does not appear to be negligent in respect of their actions - seems a pretty normal occurrence for bags to be left in rooms. It's well known that classrooms are never going to be secure and that thefts occur, therefore the daughter would have been aware of the risks.Plus the failure to report the loss to the police will raise the suspicion (justified or not) that the phone was not in the bag.

Batchy

does this basically relate to a claim of negligence on the part of locking the room... and breaking this duty... this is an expensive claim.

and to be honest for your daughters sake wouldnt be contructive...

get her a new £20 quid phone from tesco's and tell her lesson learnt... no more expensive items unless you look after them.

its like leaving a wallet around... why... put it in your pocket and be done with it!

geri1965_2

Kittian_the_Blue wrote: »

It's well known that classrooms are never going to be secure and that thefts occur, therefore the daughter would have been aware of the risks.

By the same token, so should the school. In addition, they instructed her to leave it there.

Porfessional_Indemnity

Thanks I think You suggestion the most appropriate as solution for this problem.

noh

geri1965 wrote: »

By the same token, so should the school. In addition, they instructed her to leave it there.

Not acording to the OP

Originally Posted by Shockingman
Just having spoke to my daughter... she said that one teacher asked them to leave their bags in the room.. they were told it would not be locked (sorry I got that bit wrong) and apparently another teacher said they could of took their bags into the assemble anyway it was not an issue! so the first teacher that asked them to leave them in the class was wrong to do so!

The teacher asked them they weren't instructed to. They were also told the room would not be locked. The daughter failed to take reasonable care of her property by leaving it unattended in an unlocked room.

Also, as has been said before, the failure to report the crime to the Police will raise the suspicion that no theft has taken place.