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MONEY MORAL DILEMMA: Should Fearne stump up for Reggie's music collection?

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  • smk77
    smk77 Posts: 3,697 Forumite
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    Did she ask to borrow a laptop or his music collection? The laptop. So, why should she pay out for something that:

    1. She didn't know she had "borrowed"
    2. Something that should have been backed up
  • timberford
    timberford Posts: 15 Forumite
    No Fearne shouldn't pay Reggie for his lost music.

    It's Reggie's responsibility to ensure his laptop and its contents are covered - through a combination of insurance (for the laptop) and backup (for the contents).

    The fact that the music has a monetary value is irrelevant - it's not unthinkable that there could have been photos on the laptop. They can't be 're-downloaded'. If he's going to charge her for the music then how does he put a value on the photos? Pull a figure out of the air?

    It may be Fearne's fault that she lost the laptop, but it's not her fault Reggie didn't have a backup of it.
  • Cloudane
    Cloudane Posts: 535 Forumite
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    edited 8 July 2009 at 1:19PM
    There's no "you must pay" between friends. When he mentions the loss, she should offer to pay for it (being a good friend), and then he probably (being a good friend) says either "no it's okay, I should've backed it up but thanks for offering" or negotiate a compromise. If they're true friends, there shouldn't have been a need for him to ask in the first place as she would've already offered, and then he'd be lenient - partly because she's had that common courtesy.

    Sounds more like they're acquaintances.

    Pedantry aside, I'd have to say go for the compromise, split the cost: after all, she was daft enough not to look after it properly, and he was daft enough not to back it up. There's blame on both sides.
  • mdr86
    mdr86 Posts: 104 Forumite
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    NO WAY should she pay up!!!
    If he didn't back up, it's COMPLETELY his fault.
  • elizabethhull
    elizabethhull Posts: 766 Forumite
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    This says it all, I believe. Well put.
    Cloudane wrote: »
    There's no "you must pay" between friends. When he mentions the loss, she should offer to pay for it (being a good friend), and then he probably (being a good friend) says either "no it's okay, I should've backed it up but thanks for offering" or negotiate a compromise. If they're true friends, there shouldn't have been a need for him to ask in the first place as she would've already offered, and then he'd be lenient - partly because she's had that common courtesy.

    Sounds more like they're acquaintances.

    Pedantry aside, I'd have to say go for the compromise, split the cost: after all, she was daft enough not to look after it properly, and he was daft enough not to back it up. There's blame on both sides.
  • adrian_bond
    adrian_bond Posts: 164 Forumite
    download all the tunes for free off limewire or equivalent. its free and illegal and no-one cares! no problem. restore his collection inside an hour!
  • rina_bean
    rina_bean Posts: 10 Forumite
    As a compromise, and gesture of Goodwill, why doesn't Fearne buy Regge an external harddrive for £100 instead?
  • spudz_2
    spudz_2 Posts: 17 Forumite
    I think if the music Reggie had stored on his computer was worth that much that it was rather silly of him not to have backed it up. What if something had gone wrong with his computer and he'd lost it all anyway.:p
  • bibi_neko
    bibi_neko Posts: 70 Forumite
    He should have backed up when he was lending out to Fearne but since she lost it and THEN decided to do it in the library which means she could have chosen the library in the first place without having to borrow the laptop. If she was that depserate it might have been quicker to just work in the library than beg and collect someone elses laptop. If Reggie can't get the music back without re-buying them then she should help him buy it back but maybe they can work out how much she should pay and in instalments since it's not like Reggie will be buying £400 in one go.
  • iviv
    iviv Posts: 572 Forumite
    Whatever you think about downloading music for free (i.e. usually technically illegal downloads), if you already own the music, then downloading it from, for example, Bittorrent, isn't illegal. The question is moot when you can, for free, re-obtain the music legally.

    Actally, it would be illegal to download it from bittorrent, even if you own it legally. The hitch is that peer2peer software is 2-way, as you download it you're also uploading it, allowing other people to download it illegaly from you.

    That said, I'd fully support downloading it anyway. Legaly if possible, but otherwise just torrent it. Its not legal, but given how the media companies treat people who buy their music anyway, there shouldn't be a problem.
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