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Graduates 'Could be Jobless For Years'

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  • amcluesent
    amcluesent Posts: 9,425 Forumite
    edited 4 July 2009 at 6:34PM
    >I'd be more than happy to go to dough-school (no idea what this is...<

    "dough school" = College of Domestic Science or School of Cookery, where peeps can learn all the essential of the culinary arts, laundry, housework and dressmaking

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  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    amcluesent wrote: »
    There's no shame in 'service' as a valet or cook. Girls can go to dough-school then snaffle themselves a hubby and settle down as housewifes.

    I take it you're a fine upstanding traditional husband and either supporting your good lady stay at home wife, in the style she's accustomed to, and your family, or are ready and willing to do so when a comely, presentable, dough-school graduate, wife-to-be arrives in your life?

    Or, alternatively, maybe you're not very keen on women. :confused:
  • Pssst
    Pssst Posts: 4,803 Forumite
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    Cleaver wrote: »
    I think PN was talking generally and on average, rather than specific, one-off examples. I agree with her, I'd prefer to be searching for a job in a downturn with a degree and experience rather than just experience.

    I agree=degree AND experience. Sadly,and its not their fault,the new kids on the block have the degree but dont have the experience. I'll admit that my views are a little skewed and cynical. We have people who join my company with degrees and some of them look down on anyone with a toolbag and yet many of them know jack sh&te.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    Pssst wrote: »
    We have people who join my company with degrees and some of them look down on anyone with a toolbag and yet many of them know jack sh&te.

    Sounds like your company might not have the best recruitment methods for for the right grads. :)
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    Have you got an address for that?
    Is it too late for me do you think?

    You're already an excellent cook PN. You now need to know where the would be dough-school graduate snafflers hang out. There'll likely be one or two who like the more mature wench - provided you've kept your physical assets in good order.
  • amcluesent
    amcluesent Posts: 9,425 Forumite
    >Or, alternatively, maybe you're not very keen on women.<

    I believe I am the board misogynist/racist/whatever...
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    amcluesent wrote: »
    >Or, alternatively, maybe you're not very keen on women.<

    I believe I am the board misogynist

    There are one or two of us who could have a go at changing this .... unless, of course we'd be totally wasting our time. ;)
  • KimYeovil
    KimYeovil Posts: 6,156 Forumite
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    If anything, the backlash against graduates will be worse even above and beyond the recession.

    The dumbing down of degrees is such that the non-academic 'graduate' vacancies will no longer be available to graduates. Who wants to employ an illiterate, arrogant, unworldly soak who thinks tasks that require an ounce of effort discriminate against their learning disabilities and who has only been given a pass-mark to maintain revenue streams?
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    KimYeovil wrote: »
    Who wants to employ an illiterate, arrogant, unworldly soak who thinks tasks that require an ounce of effort discriminate against their learning disabilities and who has only been given a pass-mark to maintain revenue streams?

    Well, obviously no employer wants to employ the type of person you've described. However, no matter what you may think, the percentage of graduates who fit your (rather stereotypical) view will be pretty small. The majority will be young, intelligent people with potential and a good work ethic who employers will be keen on taking on in some capacity.

    Of course, more people go to University these days and this devalues having a degree. But we're certainly not at the stage where having a degree means you are 'illiterate, arrogant or unworldly'. The amount of people just means that you need to ensure that your experience, personality and choice of uni / course is top notch.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    KimYeovil wrote: »
    Who wants to employ an illiterate, arrogant, unworldly soak who thinks tasks that require an ounce of effort discriminate against their learning disabilities and who has only been given a pass-mark to maintain revenue streams?

    Well, obviously no employer wants to employ the type of person you've described. However, no matter what you may think, the percentage of graduates who fit your (rather stereotypical) view will be pretty small. The majority will be young, intelligent people with potential and a good work ethic who employers will be keen on taking on in some capacity.

    Of course, more people go to University these days and this devalues having a degree. But we're certainly not at the stage where having a degree means you are 'illiterate, arrogant or unworldly'. The higher amount of people getting degrees just means that you need to ensure that your experience, personality and choice of uni / course is top notch.
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