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  • Iain_M
    Iain_M Posts: 23 Forumite
    These internet sites do not get the Electoral Register.

    Since the introduction of the opt out in 2002, Council's are now restricted as to who is entitled to purchase the Full Register. The relevant regulation states "the registration officer shall supply on request and on payment of a fee calculated in accordance with regulation 111 above copies of a relevant document to a credit reference agency which is registered under Part III of the Consumer Credit Act 1975 (by virtue of section 147 of that Act) and which is carrying on the business of providing credit reference services."

    Each Council has no choice about selling to the following firms authorised under the above regulation:
    Experian, Equifax, Call Credit PLC and Aristotle International Europe Limited.

    https://www.b4usearch.com , 192.com and any other internet search sites are not entitled to the Full Register. I gained the impression that these sites are a real pain to the Council as they continue to give the impression that they have the current register and also show electors who have opted out since 2002.

    I suspect that these sites may not be based in the UK and therefore not subject to our Data Protection legislation.

    If you don't want to be on these search websites who are using the old Register of Electors then I'm afraid it appears that we will each have to request our own removal from each website.

    I would also like these websites to correct the misleading impression that they have the current register of electors - they don't.

    The edited register can be purchased by anyone and used for any purpose - the more people who have opted off the edited register the less likelihood there is of companies deciding to buy the edited register.

    Access to the Full Register is restricted by law, and in my area it can only be viewed under supervision at the Council Office, and only hand written notes may be made. It is a paper document and is not available online.

    The Edited register (also only a paper document) can be viewed in our libraries, with the same restriction regarding note taking, although I understand that different policies may apply in other council areas with regard to taking copies.

    You can apply in writing during the year to your Council's Electoral Registration Office to opt out (ie only appear on the Full Register), and the credit agencies will be advised of your changed registration.
  • Darksun
    Darksun Posts: 1,931 Forumite
    I doubt the email is actually from the thames valley police, it's not a criminal issue and entirely out of their control. Also, I don't think the police would start a chain letter.

    However, this information is availiable online from a variaty of places. Personally, I don't see a problem with it!
  • hollydays
    hollydays Posts: 19,812 Forumite
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    Have a look at the original thread,im not in the phone book etc either,and opted out of electoral roll,as have many others.You dont see a problem with police officers having people know where they live?!!This is old information pre 2002,still doesnt mean it is not current for many.Electoral roll did sell it pre 2002.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,421 Community Admin
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    Thats strange, i have found myself on the site, but i have had to put in the town i live in which is something i dont normally reveal on the net but whats strange is, MrJudi doesnt come up as living there.
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  • Woby_Tide
    Woby_Tide Posts: 5,344 Forumite
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    Iain_M wrote:
    I suspect that these sites may not be based in the UK and therefore not subject to our Data Protection legislation.

    The site owner gets a round a bit(and seeing as he isn't overly bothered about peoples home addresses being on the internet ;)

    Registrant:
    Mr. Raju Banga
    282 Lordswood Road
    Birmingham, WEST MIDLANDS B17 8AN
    UK

    Domain Name: B4USEARCH.COM

    Administrative Contact:
    Mr. Raju Banga
    5805 Portobelo Ct
    San Diego, CA 92124-1109
    US
    92124-1109
    619-541-1042 [fax]
    text2image.php?id=A2QENVNyVjAIYgNDCWMKMFR1UW1QMVE4Uz4CJVYxAmFXPA==

    Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
    Mr. Raju Banga
    282 Lordswood Road
    Birmingham, WEST MIDLANDS B17 8AN
    UK
    0121 440 0247
    0121 440 2952 [fax]
    text2image.php?id=XChQMVduVxACYFdjBXIDeAUzVmhVewZzAmg=
  • hollydays
    hollydays Posts: 19,812 Forumite
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    re judi this info is not taken from the net its usually from electoral role.Was mr judi living elsewhere pre 2002
  • iwanttosave_2
    iwanttosave_2 Posts: 34,292 Forumite
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    I have never found myself on any of these sites, I have tried all my past addresses as well. I am on the electrol roll, the only thing I opted out of is having my phone number on directory enquires. And trust me, I am good at finding people if I want to.

    I had to show a few how easy it is a while back and I found them in about 45 secs.
    Work like you don't need money,
    Love like you've never been hurt,
    And dance like no one's watching
    Save the cheerleader, save the world!
  • hollydays
    hollydays Posts: 19,812 Forumite
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    .Before anyone else says they cant see the problem with this site i will give a few examples of people who would have a problem with it.People who have been stalked,or harrassed,or intimidated.People with violent partners they have moved away from.People in jobs involved with any kind of law enforcement,or jobs where people regularly threaten them,and obviously famous people who value their privacy.Anyone who has ever been threatened and lives in fear of being tracked down.Anyone who may become any of these in the future,Electorol roll dont sell the full register,but they have sold some of the register pre 2002.Thats causing the problems.Also be aware when the electoral roll form turns up, its only the head of the household who has to sign and tick to say if they all want to opt out-the other partner has no say apparantly,although as already stated,you can contact your local council and be taken off the rolling register-no comfort if theyve already sold the info.i agree they are giving the impression the info is current-but that is of no significance to people who have,and will be living at the same address since 2002.iF YOU WANT TO KNOW IF YOU ARE ON THE Full VERSION of ELECTORAL ROLL RING THEM UP.If you want to be taken off it,do it now.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,421 Community Admin
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    hollydays wrote:
    re judi this info is not taken from the net its usually from electoral role.Was mr judi living elsewhere pre 2002
    Err, yes, i threw him out.:o
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  • hollydays
    hollydays Posts: 19,812 Forumite
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    Perfectly good enough for him!!only joking-thats why hes not on it.
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