European law - 2 year guarantee on all consumer goods!

pault123

I've not come accross this before but it states that "a two year guarantee applies for the sale of all consumer goods everywhere in the EU".

Theres have been many items i've been told by retailer I can't return faulty its out of its 1 year warranty. I've been given the hard sell on electrical warranties too, based on the item only having a 1 year warranty.


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http://ec.europa.eu/publications/booklets/move/64/en.pdf

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This has been widely trailed and widely talked about here. I'd suggest doing a search because it's not that straightforward.

naijapower

Yeah, i dont think it is straight forward. Pls check it out carefully

Antispam

I have it on confirmation from Consumer direct and these people http://www.ukecc.net/ that sale of goods act is better option the EU directive only goes to 2 years and you have to prove after 6 months that there goods has a inherent fault just like the soga

By the way Currys said to be that it inst law the directive which is a blatant lie

The soga is better because you have up to 6 years in England and 5 in Scotland

Antispam

The EU directive is misleading its seems to imply its a 2 year guarantee, it isnt as such, its not a guarantee or warranty it just means the goods have to be free from defectives up to 2 years etc like the sale of goods act. After 1st 6 months you have to prove there is a defective that is why I am paying for a engineer to check my freezer out on Friday

pault123

sounds like a catch 22 as say 1.5 years down the line it breaks how would you even try to explain it was faulty in the 1st six months but you've used it all this time without problem?!

Jakg

Antispam wrote: »

By the way Currys said to be that it inst law the directive which is a blatant lie

The soga is better because you have up to 6 years in England and 5 in Scotland

What?


This directive doesn't actually apply in the UK anyway - but even if it did the SOGA is better...

4743hudsonj

Jakg wrote: »

What?


This directive doesn't actually apply in the UK anyway - but even if it did the SOGA is better...

you obviously dont quite understand what directives are or you have just worded your reply poorly

of course directives apply

they apply to all member states and are heavily enforceable as shown by the case Eu Commission vs UK (Re Tachometers) when the uk failed to enforce a directive in law.

so this new eu directive does apply, but directives are basically instructions to member states

they offer rough(rough compared to fully completed regulations and decisions)
guidlines as to how member states should construct a law and it gives them what the purpose of the act is

it is then left to the member states to construct or amend laws in order to achieve the desired affect

in the uks case for this directive

soga just to happened to already make the cut as it were. it already gave the 2 years protection and a further 4


but yes that was a generic post on the background on this eu directive and what it means so it wasnt solely directed at you Jakg

Antispam

It applies to all member states of EU as it gives every one a bare minimum protection

I already said soga is better "
The soga is better because you have up to 6 years in England and 5 in Scotland"

Jakg wrote: »

What?


This directive doesn't actually apply in the UK anyway - but even if it did the SOGA is better...

phlogeston

4743hudsonj wrote: »

you obviously dont quite understand what directives are or you have just worded your reply poorly

of course directives apply

they apply to all member states and are heavily enforceable as shown by the case Eu Commission vs UK (Re Tachometers) when the uk failed to enforce a directive in law.

so this new eu directive does apply, but directives are basically instructions to member states

they offer rough(rough compared to fully completed regulations and decisions)
guidlines as to how member states should construct a law and it gives them what the purpose of the act is

it is then left to the member states to construct or amend laws in order to achieve the desired affect

in the uks case for this directive

soga just to happened to already make the cut as it were. it already gave the 2 years protection and a further 4


but yes that was a generic post on the background on this eu directive and what it means so it wasnt solely directed at you Jakg

Your reply is either incorrect or confusing.

European Law has only a direct effect on UK law if implemented in a Treaty or Regulation.

Directives can not under any circumstance have a direct effect between private individuals or organizations (the case you quote is against a government body).

If the directive is to have any effect it must be incorporated into UK law.

So in essence forget the directive, it has NOT been incorporated into UK law because the Sale of Goods Act already gave consumers better rights.

Halloway

Hot stuff, Phlogeston. You're on fire today.