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Hiding your IP address......?

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  • albertross_2
    albertross_2 Posts: 8,932 Forumite
    If you want to learn about tcp/ip and security, try some of these webcasts.

    http://www.grc.com/SecurityNow.htm#33
    Ever get the feeling you are wasting your time? :rolleyes:
  • T4i
    T4i Posts: 1,845 Forumite
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    Lookup CCNA.

    Lots of ebooks, this goes into the deep parts of networking.
  • albertross_2
    albertross_2 Posts: 8,932 Forumite
    Everything you do directly is logged and saved by your ISP, (RIP bill). Use of anonymous proxies, onion routers etc., just make the job a bit harder, but with a court order, any logs that exist will have to be surrended. It's best to stay this side of the law, and don't use file sharing, as the BPI, FAST, Film companies etc.. are becoming increasingly letigious.

    http://www.theregister.com/2006/04/04/ifpi_sues_more_people/

    As far as protecting your home network goes, a hardware router is the best first line of defence.
    Ever get the feeling you are wasting your time? :rolleyes:
  • zappahey
    zappahey Posts: 2,252 Forumite
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    David_B wrote:
    Surley that's what the firewall does or can sent to do i'snt it?
    I have the option on my personel firewall to hide my IP address to the rest of the world.

    I don't know where you got that idea from but it's completely wrong. The router may stop "stuff" from accessing your network but it doesn't hide your external IP address, which is the one that gets logged.
    What goes around - comes around
  • Darksun
    Darksun Posts: 1,931 Forumite
    If you hide your house, how does the postman know where to deliver the letters :confused:
  • Kevicho
    Kevicho Posts: 3,216 Forumite
    Hi, you find out wether you get a "static Ip address" - (which means you have the same address everytime you log on), or a dynamic address (which means it changes)

    simply go to ipchicken.com and write down the number you see

    reboot the router/pc and see if this changes.

    however either way you will still need good firewall protection, (i have a firewall on my router and my pc) because most spyware/hackers target what is know as "ports"

    Each port provides access over a network to certain services such as web (port 80), ftp (port 21), pop3 email (port 110), smtp -ie exchange server email (port 25) and so on.

    Now the hackers etc know these standards and they know those ports could be open, so they gain a starting point and send information to try and gain a response, good firewalls tend to receive the information and not respond.

    This makes it look to the hacker there is no pc available and any attempts to get something out of that port usually fail (although some hackers are better than others)

    This is similar for malware, they use whatever port to send out information, and try to open the port to receive information.

    Read more into this if you want, but if security is your aim, your question should change to "how can i best protect my ports"

    And as for hiding for the record !!!!!! of america, they will find you! ;)
  • Kevicho
    Kevicho Posts: 3,216 Forumite
    David_B wrote:
    Surley that's what the firewall does or can sent to do i'snt it?
    I have the option on my personel firewall to hide my IP address to the rest of the world.

    Not sure if it helps you.

    I think what this option does is make your ip seem invisible to port scanners and such like

    The receiving end needs an address to respond to, and this is encded into each data packet (the unit of transfer)
  • amosworks
    amosworks Posts: 1,831 Forumite
    Kevicho wrote:
    I think what this option does is make your ip seem invisible to port scanners and such like
    The receiving end needs an address to respond to, and this is encded into each data packet (the unit of transfer)

    Most HTTP headers going through a secondary device get altered to include HTTP_FORWARDED_FOR as well as REMOTE_ADDR et al. This can help IP masquerading but maybe it's just giving you the option to strip these out?

    All IP segments have to have a destination and source address otherwise the ARP tables on the network layer simply won't function properly and your data won't be delivered correctly. If hacking this can be a good thing, but unless you're only transmitting data and don't want a reply, say a UDP stream, then your destination address needs to be present in the datagram. For TCP this is a must because TCP/IP is in its very design peer to peer managed.
  • MercilessKiller
    MercilessKiller Posts: 7,143 Forumite
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    Darksun wrote:
    If you hide your house, how does the postman know where to deliver the letters :confused:


    Spot on. That was my exact argument in another similar post.

    If you are going to fileshare, then you use your own ip and if you get caught then tuff, you were breaking the law. That's what most people will do I assume, and as for being caught.. you have a less than 0.1% chance realistacally.

    If you really want to learn about TCP/IP, as someone else suggested look up a CCNA qualification, more importantly the CCNA 1 module. Even the basic IT Essentials course from CISCO cover TCP/IP Addressing.

    As for hiding, all your doing is going through another server.. so your not hiding, your just taking an indirect router as such... where do you think police get info of filesharers/child !!!!!! people from? Either ISP's, or anonymous proxy servers from the web!!!!

    Your safer using ur normal ip imo..

    Research is research. Fine. But you shouldnt have a need to hide an ip address. Thats just abusing the service and address you've been given/provided for no extra cost generally by the ISP.
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"The internet is a great way to get on the net."
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  • millwalll
    millwalll Posts: 912 Forumite
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    there are website that you pay and they basically let u suff the net thought there serve so you ip is hiden and you use there ip address i use this it s another way of staying save online cost me think it was $40 for 2 years
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