need advice regarding a will (sensitive)

Errata

OP - I think on balance you will find many more supportive and helpful posts than ones that aren't. Please don't be put off.
Pat on the back for you for sticking up for your grandma - and your grandad. You are a credit to them.

oliviasmummy

Thanks Errata im so angry and upset at the moment im not having chance to greive over the loss of my grandad we are all a very close family on my side and my grandad never classed any of us as step kids or step grandkids etc. I appreciate any help I have had so far and advice from people. My grandad was a hard working decent man and who miss dearly and my grandma does not deserve to be treated this way by his children. They have no respect for her or anyone else for that matter and in my honest opinion they have no respect for themselves, if they can steal money from a dying man and not only only that a dying man who happens to be their Dad. The funeral is on Monday and all my family are dreading it as they will have received the letter from the solcitor by then. I would like to tell them they are not welcome but I know my grandad wouldnt want that so we are just not going to speak to them they will have each other as far as im concerned and if they try to cause trouble or upset my grandma in anyway me and my couisn will be telling them to leave.

Errata

The situation your grandma finds herself in is a truly rotten one. A death is always distressing, but when family members do the modern equivalent of grave robbing the distress is compounded many times.

I think you're right to not ban them from the funeral service and in case of any difficulties it might be helpful if it was decided who would 'surround' grandma and protect her from any unpleasantness and who would act as 'bouncers'.

Planning for the worst can often make any difficulties much easier to manage if everyone knows what role they may have to play.

oliviasmummy

yeah thats what we have decided my mum and two aunties will be with grandma along with my dad and 2uncles and me and my cousins will ensure she is not harrassed.

I 24 my cousin 25 its hard trying to be the supporters when its the first time we have gone through this since our great grandmother passed away 10years ago we were younger then. I think our eyes have grown rapidly from stretching to prevent our parents and grand parents seeing us upset last week as we wanted to be there to support them and we are supporting each other with the help of my husband. my couisns wife isnt really interested, she sees it as he wasnt her grandad and isnt coming to the funeral as she cant book a days holiday without 2weeks notice and doesnt want it to go as sick leave as it counts against her. I thought companies had to give you compassionate leave whether paid or not for spouse's family funerals, but thats another ball ache we will get through it we are a stong family and will stick together and be there for eachother.

LondonDiva

Olivia's Mummy

While I know you're upset, I second MargaretClare's post about using proper sentences and punctuation etc.

I really struggled to read your posts and only persevered because I have some knowledge and I felt it was important, given how distressed you were, to comment if needed.

You've shown you can make it easier to help people to help you and writing is suchasloppyway makes it harder than it needs to be to read and comprehend your post and meaning.

To write in such a poor manner consistently almost looks deliberate particularly when you can do otherwise.

People do want to help and I believe that MargaretClare's post was helpful and supportive and only intended to make you realise how unneccessarily difficult you made it.

I hope your situation resolves itself soon.

oliviasmummy

londondiva-

If you have a reply that would help me then I would appreciate it but I dont think it is necessary to comment on my grammer (or lack of) in my posts. If people dont understand my posts then dont continue reading and dont post replies. It doesnt benefit me in anyway shape or form in answering my original questions by posting about something that is irrelavant. At the end of the day this is an internet forum not an exam or an important letter email etc and if I dont want to use punctuation then thats my choice same as its your to do so.

Its not that im not capable of doing so it just isnt my top priority at this moment in time. Your post just seemed to be a complete waste to be honest as you said you only persevered in reading as you have knowledge to which you felt was important. Yet you failed to give any advice in regards to my original posts apart from to comment or second what another poster had said about how unclear they believe my posts are.

Pee

You can contact the police about the money. The difficulty is that she could say, and you couldn't prove, that your Grandad had asked her to take the money out. Usually nothing happens with these types of cases, but I am very pleased to say that the Police did take one seriously and gave the person a caution.

Pee

What your Grandmother needs to do is contact a solicitor.

She needs to enter a caveat to stop the will being proved, your grandmother can then apply for letters of administration and explain that there is a will that is not valid and let them see the witnesses signed statement.

If the witness changes their mind and says that they were there then the will may be proved. If your grandmother is mentioned as a residuary beneficiary she is entitled to a copy. All wills proved at the Probate Registry become public documents, so you can get a copy from York Probate Registry.

If your grandfather did not provided adequately for his wife then she can make a claim against the estate within six months of the Grant of Probate. So you need to move quite fast, once you have the funeral etc out of the way and your grandmother is able to deal with things.

margaretclare

I have not attacked you. You accused me of being confused. I find your writing confusing in the extreme. I tried to answer to the best of my ability, being aware of the rules of intestacy. I have met this situation before, someone dying with no will, an invalid will, or a will that can't be found.

The purpose of writing is to be understood. Forming proper sentences and the other things I mentioned are simply a way of marshalling your thoughts, what you want to say, in such a way that others can understand you. Otherwise it is all completely pointless.

oliviasmummy

no the point I was making in regards to you being confused was you posted saying that the moment my grandad died the banks should have been informed. i.e in my opinion you were insinuating that we hadnt informed them of this. You were also very matter of fact about your replie. But if you had read my posts previously regardless to sentences making sense you would have seen the dates CLEARLY 15/06/ and 19/06 which were last week my grandad passed away on monday. you also commented that we should inform the pension people to stop paying into his account and again my previous post said nothing about my grandads pension it was my grandma's pension which was being paid into my grandads account. now i do apologise that you dont seem to be able to distinguish between grandma and grandad. I would rather you didnt reply to my post further regardless to whether you have anything useful to say.