Which washing machine do you recommend?

deano72_2

CKdesigner wrote: »

Hi,

40 Years ago Bosch might have come close in build quality to Miele, never since. With all due respect I don't actually think you know too much about Miele's life expectancy. Every Miele washing machine is designed for 10,000 hrs of use which works out to 2 one hour washes a day 5 days a week for 20 years, and the hard water in this country has nothing to do with it as the machines are primarily designed to be used in Germany where generally their water is harder than ours!

lol...are miles made of scale resistant materials

CKdesigner

deano72 wrote: »

lol...are miles made of scale resistant materials

Hi Deano,

If you use a Miele washing machine or in fact any washing machine correctly and follow the manufacturer's maintenance instructions by doing a regular maintenance wash and also use quality big box powders then scale build up is minimised and rarely an issue.

kwatt

There should be no need for additives, unless you want to add them and waste money of course, if you use a good detergent properly. In order to do that and save the need to buy all the "extras" you have to understand what you're doing or, you'll get ripped off.

Basic washing powder advice I wrote up in this article. You will see that it's pretty clear on Calgon, Vanish or whatever else they try to sell you... you don't need it!

As for washing machines, Miele is good, very well built. But, when it goes wrong be aware that you will need deep pockets and you will likely have to pay whatever ransom Miele demands. Spare part prices on Miele are quite simply heart stoppingly high.

There was a big debate about this over on Washerhelp as Andy started up a conversation on it and, the basic outcome was that Miele dealers sell Miele as they make a better markup on similar products and were quiet happy with a "closed system". I doubt that's true of all Miele dealers, many sell them simply because they are good machines. But there are alternatives if you go look.

We get it every now and then on UK Whitegoods as well, lots of trade debate over the rights and wrongs of how Miele operate but, my own opinion from a repairers point of view, is that they have created a little monopoly for themselves. Due to that fact, you cannot get service information etc. for Miele, I will not recommend that anyone buy one as when it needs fixed you've just got to pay whatever Miele want you to pay as loads of the indies won't touch them.

HTH

K.

Horasio

My mother had a Candy for 15 years and I had a Hotpoint for 10 years - sold it with the house. This was back in the 80s.

I had an Indesit in two houses in the 90s and it worked OK

Have they got worse now?

I am also in a hard water area now. Is Calgon the same as Soda Crystals?

kwatt

I cut my teeth on Candy machines form the old 802's etc from the early eighties through the INOX machines and onto the Charme range that they introduced at the start of the 90's, that was a horror. But then just about everyone else also went down the road of making cheap machines around that time, they were all at it.

We (the trade) all thought they'd reached the bottom of the barrel but we were wrong. They all continued to cut costs and, as a result, quality over the years until we get to where we are now. Many machines get scrapped after 18 months as most of what's out there is just utter garbage and, that's being kind to it.

Hotpoint I was never a fan of but, since Indesit bought them they're just garbage IMO.

If you go looking right now you'll see REPIC fighting DEFRA over the WEEE Directive as manufacturers are forced to pay a bit to dispose of the rubbish they produce and it's all a sham. If they introduced what they call IPR (Individual Producer Responsibility) then it wouldn't be a problem but, that means that they'd have to pay for the volume of scrap they produce and not, as it is presently, on weight.

So, we have a situation where if I produce a nice heavy long lasting washing machine I get penalised by the EU and UK Governments as, according to the system, I put more onto the market than say, Indesit, who make Hotpoint. But, because their washer weighs half what mine does, they pay half what I do.

Fair?

People think appliances are simple.

K.

cairon

I bought a WD64OG washer dryer by hotpoint. It has been awful and keeps tripping our electric on some cycles. They could never find the fault and the customer service is a bunch of bullyies who threaten charges if no fault is found and never listen. After 18 months it finally gave up entirely. An expensive mistake. Avoid hotpoint/Creda/Canon/ Indesit - all the same company, same quality and same dreadful customer service. I spoke to a Bianca and a Nathalie and both were awful. After 4 calls finally spoke to a girl called Clare who was nice but boy oh boy what a bad company. AVOID!!!

Did I say AVOID...... I really mean it.

cairon

No its because hotpoint quality has dramitically dropped in the last few years. I suspect you'll find they now use cheaper non european components and are trading on their old reputation for great quality.

Diane60

I was looking to buy a Hoover washing machine today (OPH147) 7Kg. Its on offer at comet for under £300. Anyone got one, or any comments about Hoover washing machines generally.

AdrianW2

Diane60 wrote: »

I was looking to buy a Hoover washing machine today (OPH147) 7Kg. Its on offer at comet for under £300. Anyone got one, or any comments about Hoover washing machines generally.

We bought that one, because it was on offer at Comet and had the huge spin speed. Too early to comment on reliability. Our only issue is that if you use it on medium or high spin speed it creases creases the life out of your clothes (so is useless for synthetic sportswear).

paulinroyton

skinback69 wrote: »

bosch are good for everything id start here

Hi there.

I bought a Bosch Maxx 5 6 months ago and recently found out my washing machines is not made in Germany but Poland.

I am alread having trouble with the machine as it shows an err3 code. Also, if I close the door nice and gentle the machine will not start. So I have to slam the door so the machine will start.

I only wished the Bosch brochures would of stated the some Bosch machines are made in Poland.

Paul