We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

EU Law - Longer Product Guarentee.

24

Comments

  • stugib
    stugib Posts: 2,601 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    alipman wrote: »
    So this only guidance and more of a wish list?
    I only query this because if I quote thsi directive, they are just going to say it doesnt apply.
    The contents of the directive are already catered for in UK law. Don't bother quoting the directive, particularly as it does not mean products have a two year guarantee as you'd usually understand it. Stick to Sale of Goods Act.
  • Tozer
    Tozer Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    The UK cannot 'amend' European Law. The case (actually cases) of 'Factortame' (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factortame_litigation) illustrate this.

    European Law is supreme.

    Factortame is not about amendment of Euro law. It is about the supremacy of EU law where there is a conflict between domestic law and EU law.

    Domestic law must be interpreted to give effect to EU law wherever possible.

    Directives are not generally of direct legal effect but are a direction for EU member states to implement the requirements into domestic legislation.

    However, the Directive in question (which would not have direct effect) is not actually inconsistent with SoGA as amended. Apart from a couple of minor amendments to SoGA, Parliament did not consider that any further implementation of the directive was necessary.
  • Esqui
    Esqui Posts: 3,414 Forumite
    Dejayy wrote: »
    Hey guys, i don't know if this has been posted before

    Nope. I don't think it has.
    Squirrel!
    If I tell you who I work for, I'm not allowed to help you. If I don't say, then I can help you with questions and fixing products. Regardless, there's still no secret EU law.
    Now 20% cooler
  • djb215
    djb215 Posts: 412 Forumite
    :wall::wall::wall::wall:
    [DISCLAIMER: Any posts made by myself are my opinions and do not represent my employer]

    God put me on Earth to acomplish a certain number of things.
    Right now I am so far behind I will probably never be allowed to die!
  • moorhawk
    moorhawk Posts: 6 Forumite
    Hi

    I was wondering if the extended guarantee also applies to reconditioned goods? I'm looking to buy an expensive blender that is sold as 'reworked' (ie could be a simple shop return, end of line, or could be faulty within guarantee and repaired) and comes with a six month guarantee. Any idea?

    Thanks
  • superscaper
    superscaper Posts: 13,369 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    moorhawk wrote: »
    Hi

    I was wondering if the extended guarantee also applies to reconditioned goods? I'm looking to buy an expensive blender that is sold as 'reworked' (ie could be a simple shop return, end of line, or could be faulty within guarantee and repaired) and comes with a six month guarantee. Any idea?

    Thanks

    Ignore the EU Directive, it's the sale of goods act (our implementation of the eu directive into law, the directive isn't a law in itself) you want. "Guarantee" in the EU Directive has nothing to do with manufacturer warranties, it's about the responsibility of conformity of goods by the retailer.

    To save me posting it all again: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=23450547&postcount=4
    "She is quite the oddball. Did you notice how she didn't even get excited when she saw this original ZX-81?"
    Moss
  • MsBoop
    MsBoop Posts: 11 Forumite
    Sons tv, purchased from Comet May 2008 has broken. Just throwing up a variety of rainbow colours.

    I have rung Comet and they say we have to pay £30 for their engineer to come out and then, depending on the fault, they will give a discount on any parts needed to repair. I queried this, quoting the EU Directive and a supervisor was brought to the phone.

    He said that they as a store haven't 'signed' the EU Directive as they offer the 6 year 'guarantee'. I quoted the EU Directive again and he is now saying that IF the set is faulty the £30 could be refunded and repaired for free...but this depends on what the engineer finds when he comes out. :confused:

    Before I ring back and arrange for an engineer to visit - can anyone shed any light on the CORRECT procedure they should be taking?

    Many thanks.
  • Esqui
    Esqui Posts: 3,414 Forumite
    This is correct. You will have to pay for an engineer to prove the inherent fault (though you may want an independent one to do it). They'll refund the cost if it can be proved.
    Squirrel!
    If I tell you who I work for, I'm not allowed to help you. If I don't say, then I can help you with questions and fixing products. Regardless, there's still no secret EU law.
    Now 20% cooler
  • MsBoop
    MsBoop Posts: 11 Forumite
    Many thanks for your prompt reply:beer:

    So the girl I INITIALLY spoke to had it wrong by saying we would have to pay..albeit with 'big' discount for any parts if the tv proved faulty/parts broken?

    If we got an independent engineer I'm not sure if Comet would then take this on board and then do any repairs as they may say it has to be THEIR engineer?

    I think I'll have to print EVERYTHING out concerning the EU Directive and have it with me when an engineer calls ;)
  • bbelt
    bbelt Posts: 117 Forumite
    :confused:
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.4K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.6K Life & Family
  • 259.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.