BA ask 40,000 staff to work for nothing.

michaels

BA does suffer a bit from being the GM of airlines with historically uncompetitive working practices and of course that pilots pension plan - they tried to combat this by positioning themselves in the high value add part of the market which is unfortunately the part that is most exposed to the swings in the business cycle.

torontoboy45

well, well, well. good ol' BA. it just can't help stumbling from one disaster to another.
it blundered over the revamped 'ethnic' tailfins (anyone recall thatch hiding one design emblazoned on a model with a piece of cloth?).
it messed up with its insistence that check-in staff swiped in at busy times and swiped out when things went quiet. result? mass walkout.
it contracted an in-sevice meals provider (gourmet gateway?) whose employee relations were so lousy it caused another walkout, quickly followed by baggage handlers.
it caused fury by suspending a Christian member of staff for refusing to hide her crucifix necklace.
oh, and let's not forget the fiasco of T5.
and now it wants the staff to help fill the hole it (partially) dug for itself!

the company was a bad joke before little willie and nothing seems to have improved since.
I'd sell the big issue on street corners long before I ever considered working for this bunch of muppets.

Andrew64

Some Asian airlines like Singapore and Cathay Pacific have told flight staff to take unpaid leave, but BA is the first airline to say that you won't get paid AND must work at the same time!

andygb

Andrew64 wrote: »

Some Asian airlines like Singapore and Cathay Pacific have told flight staff to take unpaid leave, but BA is the first airline to say that you won't get paid AND must work at the same time!

Yes, this is the most disgusting thing about this crisis. I am unemployed, but I sympathise for workers everywhere, who are being asked to take pay cuts, or work for free.
This will not affect the people at the top, the directors, chief executive. This will hurt ordinary people on low to medium salaries (still below average wage).
Where is this going to end? If you cut jobs or hours in one sector, it has a knock on effect elsewhere.
How do we recover if we run businesses into the ground, or people just say - "well it was their own fault, charging too much".
This "domino effect" shows no signs of slowing, and there is no way that anyone will listen to the government and "spend", or "borrow", just to try to kick start the economy, because you don't know who will fall next.

wolvoman

andygb wrote: »

Yes, this is the most disgusting thing about this crisis. I am unemployed, but I sympathise for workers everywhere, who are being asked to take pay cuts, or work for free.
This will not affect the people at the top, the directors, chief executive. This will hurt ordinary people on low to medium salaries (still below average wage).
Where is this going to end? If you cut jobs or hours in one sector, it has a knock on effect elsewhere.
How do we recover if we run businesses into the ground, or people just say - "well it was their own fault, charging too much".
This "domino effect" shows no signs of slowing, and there is no way that anyone will listen to the government and "spend", or "borrow", just to try to kick start the economy, because you don't know who will fall next.

Yet again I ask - what else can BA do? It is losing £2m every single day.

michaels

I would take a 10% pay cut rather than lose my job. Presenting this as working unpaid rather than a pay cut would be a bonus as my base salary would not then have been reduced so next year the starting point for my pay would be my current salary rather than 10% lower.

bo_drinker

ad9898 wrote: »

[STRIKE]More green shoots[/STRIKE], oh sorry, just had my assimilated media/government spin head on for a second. Anyway how much longer can the spin/talk machine stay ahead of the facts. Surely if everything was 'getting back to normal' there would be no need for one of the UK's biggest employers to ask people to work for nothing in order to survive ?, have some sympathy for anyone who doesn't work in the public sector......... for now anyway.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1193242/Struggling-BA-asks-40-000-staff-work-desperate-fight-survival.html

This is a joke right. When things were rosey for BA and they were coining it big time were they sharing the profits with the staff on the ground?? I doubt it. But when the !!!!!! hits the fan they ask for charity, any talk of the big earners taking a hit in salary yet??

Radsteral

Its one of the companies that i always disliked, main reason the monopoly they hold flying to the country i come from , enabling them to slap it up as much as they want for a single ticket
Funily , we have found a way of not paying 500 quid for 2 and half hour flight.
Instead of paying 1000 quid for me and my wife to get to albania, we now got a good car and if we were to go there we just leave england late evening and by evening next day we there.. at a cost of 250 quid.
I know many that would just get a different airline even though that means there will be a stop flight or they just drive like me.
My mate booked a ''cheap return'' in february to fly in july and it cost 480.00
he needed to leave earleir than july and ba helped in their own way Ticket = 320 but admin fee etc means he ll get nothing back
pricing all over the place and over the top.

Feel sorry for employees though , Willie Walsh on 60000 a month , he s hapy to give it away but for employees who probably on 1500 a month, thats their mortgage money

Thrugelmir

andygb wrote: »

Yes, this is the most disgusting thing about this crisis. I am unemployed, but I sympathise for workers everywhere, who are being asked to take pay cuts, or work for free.
This will not affect the people at the top, the directors, chief executive. This will hurt ordinary people on low to medium salaries (still below average wage).
Where is this going to end? If you cut jobs or hours in one sector, it has a knock on effect elsewhere.
How do we recover if we run businesses into the ground, or people just say - "well it was their own fault, charging too much".
This "domino effect" shows no signs of slowing, and there is no way that anyone will listen to the government and "spend", or "borrow", just to try to kick start the economy, because you don't know who will fall next.

Operating companies efficently won't run them into the ground. Pay and benefits makes up the main cost for the majority of companies. If we can make a fast decisive adjustment before other countries do. Potentially we'll have a head start coming out of the recession.

If every 10 average paid people took a 10% cut. That would potentially create a job for somebody like yourself.

wolvoman

bo_drinker wrote: »

This is a joke right. When things were rosey for BA and they were coining it big time were they sharing the profits with the staff on the ground?? I doubt it. But when the !!!!!! hits the fan they ask for charity, any talk of the big earners taking a hit in salary yet??

You haven't really researched before posting have you?

Firstly BA have never really 'coined' it in of late. Last year they paid a dividend for the first time in TEN years. And it wasn't a big dividend. Last year's profit was thir highest ever but it was short-lived (and in fact lots of staff did receive bonuses).

Your other point about the big earners taking a hit in salary. They already have - they were the ones who set the example in the first place.

Good grief.