Unable To Attend Sign-On

NASA_2

lufcgirl wrote: »

So if I go in day after I get back...which would be Friday, would that just mean the payment is delayed by three days?

Yes, the payment will be delayed by however many days you are signing on late, like dookar says this must be agreed before leaving for the holiday otherwise they will just treat you as a 'failed to sign' and could close your claim.

lufcgirl

Ok, when is the best time to call them to arrange it all? Do I need to wait until so many days beforehand before doing it?

NASA_2

If your not due to sign on again before the holiday then I would suggest ringing them tomorrow.

miss*whisper

lufcgirl wrote: »

Ok, when is the best time to call them to arrange it all? Do I need to wait until so many days beforehand before doing it?

Phone them tomorrow - or better still go in and collect the "going away from home" form. They will (should) ask you to attend the jobcentre on the day after you get back to sign. And your benefit will be that number of days later.

miss*whisper

ESA wrote: »

Yes, the payment will be delayed by however many days you are signing on late, like dookar says this must be agreed before leaving for the holiday otherwise they will just treat you as a 'failed to sign' and could close your claim.

They can't close your claim after 3 days. They have to allow a week ie if you sign on a Monday, they must give you until the following Monday to attend (and face potential DMA action on the reasons why you failed to sign on time) but they can close your claim any time after they close to the public if you haven't signed in that 7 days.

NASA_2

miss*whisper wrote: »

They can't close your claim after 3 days. They have to allow a week ie if you sign on a Monday, they must give you until the following Monday to attend (and face potential DMA action on the reasons why you failed to sign on time) but they can close your claim any time after they close to the public if you haven't signed in that 7 days.

They can close your claim after one day if they decide you havent shown good cause. They can even close your claim if you consistently sign on at the wrong time on the right day.

That is why its important to let them know before going away.

miss*whisper

ESA wrote: »

They can close your claim after one day if they decide you havent shown good cause. They can even close your claim if you consistently sign on at the wrong time on the right day.

That is why its important to let them know before going away.

2 very different issues!!!

Consistently signing at a different time, as you probably know, is indicative of fraud.

A one-off, OP, for example, were he not to attend on a Tuesday, DOES have a week to attend BUT MUST show good cause or he will lose benefit for those days he didn't attend. In practice, everyone due to sign on a Tueday has their LMU in the trays ready for them to attend. Those who don't, the LMU is put elsewhere in a FTA tray so if they attend in the coming week can be located and the DMA action taken (which is where the good cause comes in) if they then don't attend by the following Tuesday, their claims are closed as FTA.


OP asked about going away from home. He had the advice to notify his jobcentre, get the going away from home form (he already stated wasn't looking for work while away) and then attend on his return. No need for scaremongering

dookar

miss*whisper wrote: »

Consistently signing at a different time, as you probably know, is indicative of fraud.

Hmm, quite a sweeping statement Seriously though, the law doesn't account for 'consistently' signing at the wrong time, only if you sign at the wrong time whilst being on an ES19 does the law allow a disallowance.

miss*whisper wrote: »

OP asked about going away from home. He had the advice to notify his jobcentre, get the going away from home form (he already stated wasn't looking for work while away) and then attend on his return. No need for scaremongering

Spot on. But I would add if she is not intending to seek work whilst away she *must* inform them of this before going.

NASA_2

miss*whisper wrote: »

OP asked about going away from home. He had the advice to notify his jobcentre, get the going away from home form (he already stated wasn't looking for work while away) and then attend on his return. No need for scaremongering

No offence but your stating the !!!!ing obvious.

I, among others, advised the OP to get the holiday form to ensure that things run smoothly for her. How is that scaremongering? Its the complete opposite. It is providing assurance that things will be ok.

The point about FTA/FTS is a seperate one arising out of a different post where someone seemed to suggest that a claim cannot be closed down if you attend within 7 days. That is erroneous and potentially dangerous.

miss*whisper

OK ESA, you obviously like to be the expert round here.

Misguidance. A good JSA term.

However it only applies to advice given in the Jobcentre.

OP: Remember that any advice given on the internet may not be accurate!