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Sid_Harper

ant2006 wrote:

p.s.
what are morgancomputers like? Dont think I've ever come across them before.
Reputable?

Been around for a VERY long time... specialists in liquidation and end-of-line stuff.

Sid_Harper

deanos wrote:

It will have DV in...

Absolutely not true. Yes some models from some makes where they offer a higher-end model with DV-in are designed this way and then have some components missing. But on the whole if it does not have DV-in then you will not be able to do anything to have it.

Secondly, whilst it's true some people like to put footage back onto tape the lifetime of tape vs. DVD+/-R is probably comparable so I wouldn't say it's a more reliable medium. In particular, relying on moving parts and looping magnetic tape round mechanical objects is likely to become obsolete before optical media does given the current trend towards solid-state memory devices.

cheapskate58

ant2006 wrote:

Quite a lot of people us DV in so that they can store their edited footage back to DV tape.
DVD-R's lose their data integrety after a couple of years & you could end up unable to play them all together.

What?? :eek:

Since when?? :rolleyes:

DVD-R has an expected lifespan of around 75-100 years.

deanos

cheapskate58 wrote:

What?? :eek:

Since when?? :rolleyes:

DVD-R has an expected lifespan of around 75-100 years.

Depends on the make and quality

cheapskate58

deanos wrote:

Depends on the make and quality

You're joking aren't you? What "quality" would you be using to only have a lifespan of two years?

CDR1122

You're joking aren't you? What "quality" would you be using to only have a lifespan of two years?

Different Discs use different dyes, there are even fake DVD-R's around!

different dyes are better / worse than others for reliability & burning compatibilities.. not all "DVD-R" discs are the same just because they have the same format..

Hope this helps,

dagger_2

Totally true - get yourself some Verbatim disks they arent much dearer than the dirtcheapo disks and you can expect decades of use out of them :-)

CDR1122 wrote:

Different Discs use different dyes, there are even fake DVD-R's around!

different dyes are better / worse than others for reliability & burning compatibilities.. not all "DVD-R" discs are the same just because they have the same format..

Hope this helps,

cheapskate58

CDR1122 wrote:

Different Discs use different dyes, there are even fake DVD-R's around!

different dyes are better / worse than others for reliability & burning compatibilities.. not all "DVD-R" discs are the same just because they have the same format..

Hope this helps,

Well you get what you pay for certainly, but it's a complete fallacy that DVD-Rs will only last for two years. Even the cheapest brands should have a life expectation beyond that.

osagefo

DV in for a video camera is not worth the extra money these days. So long as you have a dvd recorder with dv in I would not bother. Why would you really choose to 'export' you finished edits to a dv tape which cost £2 a piece, is more difficult to make copies off etc, instead of a dvr or rewritable. I have had a number of these dv recorders and I have always fallen for the sale of dv in. I think I have used it just once and even then it was just to trial it.

bubbles2007

for home movies and when the screening quality doesnt need to be the absolute best, transferring it to dvd is fine. but if after doing dv out to your computer you want to send it back to the camera using dv in, you will have the same quality.

dvd compresses it heavily and there are losses and drop outs, which is usually acceptable and unnoticeable to consumers.