Starting BOTOX business - any nurses do this?

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metalgal wrote: »

I would not go for botox from anyone other than a plastic surgeon. I have seen info on the botox courses offered and there is no way that you would learn all you need to know on them. The face and its muscle and nervous system are extremely complex and vary person to person.

Thats your choice of course...

missweasel

[quote=[Deleted User];32034539]Hmm. Its not really remote prescribing though, is it? Each patient is individually assessed by the GP - even though there is no face to face. This is perfectly allowable.

Remote prescribing, from what I understand, is where you get a bulk of product prescribed in one go.[/QUOTE]

I just thought remote prescribing was prescribing without a face to face consultation, whether it be phone, fax, or letter etc. Yeah from what I understand it has to be face to face, I cant post links on here as im just new but ive searched and searched and its definately right although I think there are many nurses unaware of it. Just making me think, I should just go ahead and do my training then as there seems to be a lot of confusion about it and the NMC dont really seem to be enforcing these guidelines. Are you sure it is allowable then? Im confused now!!??!!

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Chrysalis43

debtfreeitseasy wrote: »

You do not need to be a nurse you can do a beauty course with bottox training included

sorry you are completely misinformed you must be a qualified doctor dentist or nurse to obtain botox!

Chrysalis43

orange-sox wrote: »

This thread is v. interesting! My mother is an RGN and has been thinking about going into this... I'm in the early stages research, so any info anyone can provide would be most welcome!

if you have a doctor prescribe for you the RCN will not insure you and any doctor or independent prescriber cannot prescribe botox unless they too have attended the course

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Chrysalis43 wrote: »

sorry you are completely misinformed you must be a qualified doctor dentist or nurse to obtain botox!

Yes. It is prescription only. But it can be used by a suitable medically qualified person (i.e. a nurse) under the direction of the prescribing doctor.

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Chrysalis43 wrote: »

if you have a doctor prescribe for you the RCN will not insure you and any doctor or independent prescriber cannot prescribe botox unless they too have attended the course

Wrong. We're fully insured.

*Chattie*

[quote=[Deleted User];32034539]Hmm. Its not really remote prescribing though, is it? Each patient is individually assessed by the GP - even though there is no face to face. This is perfectly allowable.

Remote prescribing, from what I understand, is where you get a bulk of product prescribed in one go.[/QUOTE]

[quote=[Deleted User];32456183]Yes. It is prescription only. But it can be used by a suitable medically qualified person (i.e. a nurse) under the direction of the prescribing doctor.[/QUOTE]

so this prescribing doctor is directing the nurse how?

not that I ever thought about getting this anyway but reading this thread has put me totally off the fact that a patient is individually assessed by a gp remotely then a prescription faxed?? you wouldn't get a prescription/treatment for your pet in this fashion.

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*Chattie* wrote: »

so this prescribing doctor is directing the nurse how?

not that I ever thought about getting this anyway but reading this thread has put me totally off the fact that a patient is individually assessed by a gp remotely then a prescription faxed?? you wouldn't get a prescription/treatment for your pet in this fashion.

So, you'r in hospital and need an injection for something. Do you really think the doctor does the actual injecting? No way.

OK. So drugs (not just botox) have contraindications that need to be checked first. i.e. the prescriber needs to be sure the drug in question is right for the patient so needs to ask a few questions.

Why does this need to be face to face? All the information is given to the doctor on a health questionaire. If there are any queries, he will phone the patient, if hes still unsure he wont prescribe.

What exactly is the difference between speaking to and actually seeing the patient?

Owain_Moneysaver

[quote=[Deleted User];32456901]So, you'r in hospital and need an injection for something. Do you really think the doctor does the actual injecting? No way.[/QUOTE]

No, but I do expect the doctor to have read my medical history before prescribing, and the nurse to have access to at least a summary care record and check for allergies etc before injecting. And I expect there to be a chain of authority and internal communication between the two, through hospital protocol if the doctor is not instructing the nurse directly.


[quote=[Deleted User];32456901]
Why does this need to be face to face? All the information is given to the doctor on a health questionaire. If there are any queries, he will phone the patient, if hes still unsure he wont prescribe.

What exactly is the difference between speaking to and actually seeing the patient?[/QUOTE]

I doubt many patients would give all their medical information on a health questionnaire, and face to face or even over the telephone the doctor can make a judgement on the reliability and honesty of the patient's responses - down to whether the patient intends to use the medication himself or sell it on the street.

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Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »

No, but I do expect the doctor to have read my medical history before prescribing, and the nurse to have access to at least a summary care record and check for allergies etc before injecting. And I expect there to be a chain of authority and internal communication between the two, through hospital protocol if the doctor is not instructing the nurse directly.




I doubt many patients would give all their medical information on a health questionnaire, and face to face or even over the telephone the doctor can make a judgement on the reliability and honesty of the patient's responses - down to whether the patient intends to use the medication himself or sell it on the street.

The patient doesnt get given the botox. It is administered by the aesthetic nurse.