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jammin_2

Pretani wrote: »

Is Eire their official name on paper?, but they use the English translation 'Ireland' to promote the state? then you have the geographical name 'Ireland' for the island...and N.Ireland is the North :eek:

My heads spinning already:rotfl:

Hi Pretani,

I know what you mean, it can be a little confusing all right..

It is incorrect to refer to Ireland as the "Irish Republic", since this was the name used from 21st January 1919 to 6th December 1922, for the entire island, as proclaimed in the Easter Rising on 24th April 1916 by the republican leaders.

It is incorrect to refer to Ireland as "Southern Ireland", since this was the name for Ireland as a constituent country of the United Kingdom (much like Northern Ireland today), as it was between 3th May 1921 and 6th December 1922.

It is incorrect to refer to Ireland as the "Irish Free State", since this was the name used following the Anglo-Irish Treaty, from 6th December 1922 and until the Constitution of Ireland on 29th December 1937.

It is incorrect to refer to Ireland as the "Republic of Ireland", since this is the description of the State and not the name.

The Constitution of Ireland states the following:

• The name of the State in English is Ireland
• The name of the State in Irish is Éire

Thus, when speaking English, the only correct term is "Ireland". When speaking Irish the only correct term is "Éire".

It is incorrect, when speaking English, to refer to Ireland as Éire, just as it is incorrect, when speaking English, to refer to Germany as Deutschland.

Golden_Anemone

ballyblack wrote: »

And to confuse the matter further some people display the sticker 'NI' on their car for the international registration code for Northern Ireland

The correct international code for N.Ireland is 'GB'.

The international code for the Irish Republic is 'IRL'

'NI' does not exist

http://www.kingkong.demon.co.uk/where/where.htm


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If that is correct Ballyblack - and it may well be - it is not founded in logic.

GB or Great Britain is Scotland, England and Wales only whereas the UK or United Kingdom is Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales. Hence logic would dictate that GB not be the abbreviation for Northern Ireland. If they wanted an abbreviation to cover all 4 countries then UK would be better. :cool:

jammin_2

Golden_Anemone wrote: »

If that is correct Ballyblack - and it may well be - it is not founded in logic.

GB or Great Britain is Scotland, England and Wales only whereas the UK or United Kingdom is Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales. Hence logic would dictate that GB not be the abbreviation for Northern Ireland. If they wanted an abbreviation to cover all 4 countries then UK would be better. :cool:

Of course you are correct, Golden Anemone.

"GB" includes England, Scotland and Wales, and excludes Northern Ireland. "UK" would be obviously correct. It is the abbreviation of United Kingdom, after all, the name of the State. "GB", or Great Britain, is merely the name of an island within the State.

Problem is, "UK" was already taken, by the Ukraine.

Pretani

.....ooops,

Indigo's_Mum

So how are we supposed to be British if Northern Ireland isn't part of Great Britain? I personally refer to myself as Northern Irish to save any confusion, but if we aren't part of GB, how come we are hosting some events in the 2012 Olympics and live under the rule of the British government and Prime Minister?

seatzie

Indigo's_Mum wrote: »

So how are we supposed to be British if Northern Ireland isn't part of Great Britain? I personally refer to myself as Northern Irish to save any confusion, but if we aren't part of GB, how come we are hosting some events in the 2012 Olympics and live under the rule of the British government and Prime Minister?

we live in the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".........

Pretani

Indigo's_Mum wrote: »

So how are we supposed to be British if Northern Ireland isn't part of Great Britain? I personally refer to myself as Northern Irish to save any confusion, but if we aren't part of GB, how come we are hosting some events in the 2012 Olympics and live under the rule of the British government and Prime Minister?

The mistake people make is they associate National identity with geography. Some believe that because you live in Ireland you are Irish or in N.Ireland you are N.Irish, but if that really was how we determine National identity it would also mean everyone living in the British Isles are British.

National identity is determined by politics and governments, not geography.

adouglasmhor

Pretani wrote: »

colours are important dookie, ever see a red, white and blue leprechaun?

I used to wear a tshirt with a a red white and blue cross in celtic knotwork (taken from the book of Kells) it used to freak out Nationists and Loyalist thickoes, but people of a philosophical bent got the point straight away.

And the outlaw motorbike club in Glasgow are called the Blue Angels MCC but their logo is this.

The founders wanted to reject sectarianism, so the skull has the Irish colours on it and the colours of Partick Thistle are hidden there as well.

marcowil

Indigo's_Mum wrote: »

So how are we supposed to be British if Northern Ireland isn't part of Great Britain? I personally refer to myself as Northern Irish to save any confusion, but if we aren't part of GB, how come we are hosting some events in the 2012 Olympics and live under the rule of the British government and Prime Minister?

GB when used in sports is for "Team GB" and its full title is the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team.
http://www.olympics.org.uk/contentpage.aspx?page=127