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  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    Why don't we print off an A3 copy of this graph / picture, roll it up, and see which bull's rectum it will fit into.
  • System
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    LOL love it.

    So your the ones who don't believe it, tell me it's wrong, but you want ME to prove myself.

    Huh? It's the job of the person presenting the information to prove it's correct, not the reader.
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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 5 June 2009 at 12:07PM
    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Huh? It's the job of the person presenting the information to prove it's correct, not the reader.

    That's already been done.

    Even the full background information on the graph has been given.

    So far, no one can tell me even WHY it's wrong. All they can do is argue about its graph / picture status.

    Why should I go to all the trouble of sitting there, plotting things out, when no one can even tell me why it's wrong? Just its wrong because, well, "it is". I asked ages ago when first posted for someone to deny it, no one could, just denied it's a graph.

    Please, do enlighten me, as I have never in my life had to prove something as much as you guys want me to prove it, when someone can't even explain to me why its wrong.
  • StevieJ
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    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Huh? It's the job of the person presenting the information to prove it's correct, not the reader.

    He has all the tools i.e. historical information to prove that house price falls always follow the pattern in his chart.
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  • mewbie_2
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    He has all the tools i.e. historical information to prove that house price falls always follow the pattern in his chart.
    Good news Graham - your picture has been promoted to a chart.
  • Really2
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    LOL love it.

    So your the ones who don't believe it, tell me it's wrong, but you want ME to prove myself.

    Well You are presenting it as the truth but wont back it up.

    Closest correlation =
    Really2 wrote: »

    PS look at the nationwide graph on HPC your graph would fit more with us being at the end of the cycle, (2000 fist sell off, 2004 top of the market, 2007 over extended return to normality)
    Now i dont think we are at that stage but we are at the return to the mean if you look at that graph.

    07-now being the end and we are returning to median prices.

    only fit graham as we are back to mean prices:)

    Must be the truth it fits.:beer:
  • mewbie_2
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    Really2 wrote: »
    Must be the truth it fits.:beer:
    What? You really did try stuffing it where the sun don't shine? Hats off to you Really. But I won't shake hands if you don't mind.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Wow!!

    You bulls REALLY don't like this chart!

    Protesting FAR too much.

    I apoloise profusely for posting such a picture that you have taken so much offense too. I will remember to post it again in the future to get you all to !!!!!! :D
  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    mewbie wrote: »
    What? You really did try stuffing it where the sun don't shine? Hats off to you Really. But I won't shake hands if you don't mind.

    Now now membie we all know you use this
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    And a bit of KY.;)
  • chucky
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    We have used that graph on here for a while waiting for the bull trap. Some said that would never come. I believe we are there, as even the bulls admit prices cannot keep going up and this is short term. Thats EXACTLY what the graph says. You have said yourself prices wil still come down, so you have explained yourself the exact bull trap in the artists impression, yet when you see it drawn out, you disagree with it, and disagree with yourself also.

    ok - i understand what your saying but i don't totally agree but we never expected to agree did we ;)

    the length of time that it's taken to get to the Bull Trap and from end of the Bull Trap to New Paradigm is quite considerable to the scale of the graph. here is my main probelm with the graph, from First Sell Off to Bull Trap is about 16 months in actual time. so it would mean that the next phase is about 4 times 16 months so at least five years until the next bull trap. that's why i don't think you could follow the graph.
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