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repainting gloss?

Hi,
I want to repaint the wooden door frame in the bathroom-before we put all the new tiles etc down. It is currently white gloss-that I washed down yesterday. I have a pot of Dulux trade satinwood pure brilliant white-can I just paint it straight on or do I need to sand it first? I also want to paint the door, which is (I think) a cheapish MDF type panelled door-can I just paint straight onto that? Also-have never used solvent based paint before-if I want to do 2 coats, one today and one tomorrow do I have to clean the brush in white spirit straight after the 1st one-or can I leave it in water overnight?
Thanks :)
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  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    Preparation, preparation, preparation is the key to a good finish, sand it, wash it, sand it again and brush all the dust off, then feel the finish, if its smooth, paint it.

    I would always clean brushes anyway they last longer.
    Hope that helps.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    Sand with fine glasspaper first, wipe down with white spirit to remove all dust. Check if the satinwood instructions require an undercoat first.
    If you stand the brush in water then you will need a new brush in the morning-water does not remove oil based paint. Clean in white spirit and leave dry overnight. Never leave brushes sitting in water or solvent.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • hotcookie101
    hotcookie101 Posts: 2,060 Forumite
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    Thank you, will have to get the sandpaper out, it's very uneven surface.
    Can I gloss/satinwood over a moulded panelled door? It has a bare patch so really needs painting, but I don't think I can really sand it......
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    Thank you, will have to get the sandpaper out, it's very uneven surface.
    Can I gloss/satinwood over a moulded panelled door? It has a bare patch so really needs painting, but I don't think I can really sand it......

    Why can't you sand it? If there is a bare patch you either need to flat it off or build it up with filler and then sand it back flush.
    Don't try and cover an uneven surface using paint alone, as it won't work.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • hotcookie101
    hotcookie101 Posts: 2,060 Forumite
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    I had a quick go at sanding it-its like cardboard at the edges though IYKWIM? I just worry that I will completely ruin the door.... The bare patch is not uneven-just feels really porous? Like the paint won't work on it. The prev owners have obviously glossed the doors slightly and it looks really odd, like the pre-painted/treated doors don't take well to paint
  • hamstercheeks_2
    hamstercheeks_2 Posts: 1,953 Forumite
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    i wouldn't recommend satinwood it yellows too quickly - talking from experience here.

    and the best gloss imo is Crown.

    The cardboard at the ends that you are talking about i thinkis cos you're sanding against the grain - try gently doing it with the grain - see how that goes

    good luck;)
    Time is the best teacher
    Shame it kills all the students
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  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    i dont agree about satinwood yellowing quickly and it gives a lovely finish.
    If that bothers you there is always eggshell finish.

    personally i dont like gloss finish
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • savemoney
    savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
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    I painted front porch internal window sills in satin wood love the finish but needed freshing up. I used a bit of a old tin of sating wood and the old paint showed through so ended up painting in gloss
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    you said 'old' thats why then.
    i dont think a lot of people realise that paint does 'go off'
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • savemoney
    savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
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    Old is just over a year old.

    When I used it it was light white clear vanish. I remember some years back I bought two tins of Aldi white paint and finish was like that and that was new paint, ended up throwing it away
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