Ticket received today - with scans

Neil_B

Gordon861 wrote: »

I thought Councils when they issued tickets were supposed to fill in all the details on their forms.

Did they get all the vehicle details correct?
They normally seem to log the vehicle colour and Tax Details(they even have a space for Tax Details).

Irrelevant, neither are required, least of all on an RTRA ticket.

Gordon861 wrote: »

Also did your wife actually buy a ticket on the way back to the car?
If she did you have grounds for an appeal

Nope, not allowed. just a chance of discretionary cancellation.

Gordon861 wrote: »

evidence that you were going to get change for the machine when the guy ticketed you.

As above, not allowed.

Gordon861

Sorry I thought the idea was to try and find a way not to pay or a way to appeal the ticket successfully. If she has a ticket timed before the fine was issued she will have a good chance to get the fine waived.

These Pay and Display car parks are supposed to observe for a time to allow you to get a ticket so the timing on that ticket, if she has it, may save the £45 fine.

peter_the_piper

Neil is realistic, if there's any chance of contesting he'll say so. Likewise if its best to pay up he'll also say so. Nothing to do with moneysaving, just whether its realistic to appeal.
I think he has said that you cannot go off site to get change nor get a ticket when you come back in. If the council give a fine whilst going for a ticket then they would usually lose.

withabix

A couple of questions:

If they thought it was 'Tesco' car park, why did the OP go to 'a nearby shop' and not into Tesco to get some change?

What was the time period between parking the car and getting back to the car with the ticket?

Be honest now!

I suspect the OP was either away from the car for a long time or was observed by the Parky leaving the car park.

DCodd

So is this one of these "parking order" car parks, where they are owned by the Supermarket but are controlled by the Council?

I beleive we have one at the waitrose in Worcester Park.

Neil_B

DCodd wrote: »

So is this one of these "parking order" car parks, where they are owned by the Supermarket but are controlled by the Council?

I beleive we have one at the waitrose in Worcester Park.

It certainly does sound something like that yes. I suggested he could research it but I suppose you have to weigh up the time it costs to research against the £45 and how strongly he feels.

Neil_B

Gordon861 wrote: »

Sorry I thought the idea was to try and find a way not to pay or a way to appeal the ticket successfully.

I don't recall anyone suggesting he should not appeal.

Gordon861 wrote: »

If she has a ticket timed before the fine was issued she will have a good chance to get the fine waived.

No, as I've explained. He can ask for them to exercise discretion but there is no legal basis for cancellation.

Gordon861 wrote: »

These Pay and Display car parks are supposed to observe for a time

Again no. You see if advice isn't valid then it isn't helping is it. I can't help saying so, I don't make the rules. i'm not doubting you mean well.


Although it was discussed and explained earlier you seem to be missing the significant difference of an RTRA 1984 ticket.

Neil_B

DCodd wrote: »

So is this one of these "parking order" car parks, where they are owned by the Supermarket but are controlled by the Council?

I beleive we have one at the waitrose in Worcester Park.

There is a chance that PPO has some qualification in it about allowances for payment times and/or defines requirements for display/pay. Coblcris raised something along these lines recently.

It might also confirm or contradict that very odd amount of £45.

withabix

Neil_B wrote: »

There is a chance that PPO has some qualification in it about allowances for payment times and/or defines requirements for display/pay. Coblcris raised something along these lines recently.

It might also confirm or contradict that very odd amount of £45.

What's odd about £45? That used to be the fixed penalty for many traffic offences (eg speeding etc). Just be thankful it didn't go up to £60!

Neil_B

withabix wrote: »

What's odd about £45? That used to be the fixed penalty for many traffic offences (eg speeding etc). Just be thankful it didn't go up to £60!

Blimey you must go back a bit! LOL.
Just the first one I've seen i suppose.

On the face of it, from their website, it is correct. As is the fact they manage the Tesco car park along with a Morrisons one.

unusual not to offer an early payment discount though - but for RTRA, like I said, simply don't know.