Organic Milk

Mojisola

abaxas wrote: »

Increased energy use in production.

That is on pesticide/hormone advantage. You get more out per unit energy used.

Is this based on an idea or do you have figures?

mardatha

I cannot imagine how a field of coos peacefully chomping grass can use more energy than a huge shed full of mechanical gubbins.

hmc

im still using orgainic milk and love the taste, still stuggle a bit as not available in the village,have some off the milk man but stock up in supermarkets, cant buy the non homoginised anywhetre though

abaxas

Mojisola wrote: »

Is this based on an idea or do you have figures?

Just the local farmer who did the maths.

I think in terms of wheat, the energy input costs were approx 2x.

hmc

hmmm a local farmer. i hadnt thought of getting milk this way hahah , now to find one

Mojisola

abaxas wrote: »

Just the local farmer who did the maths.

One man's sums - who presumably hasn't any experience of farming organically - I wouldn't base an argument on that.

I do agree with you that local is good if you can tell how green the local farmers are. If I lived next door to a farm with chemically-soaked crops and poor animal management, nothing would persuade me to "buy local".

One good thing about the increase in farm chemicals is that farmers are getting better at reducing chemical use - better general management and more targeted use.

Mojisola

I know it's in their interest to say this but I'm sure they have the figures to prove it - https://www.soilassociation.org/Whyorganic/Climatefriendlyfoodandfarming/Energyuse/tabid/580/Default.aspx -
"Overall, UK organic farming is about 26% more energy efficient per tonne."

mardatha

What about supermarket organic milk - is that guaranteed organic ? Or is it one of those smartass arrangements where it says "our cows enjoy the nice fresh air and sweet grass" ...and then you find they can see it from inside their barns and thats it ?!

Mojisola

If it has the logo of one of the organic certification bodies on it, it has to be organic or someone is breaking the law.