Netgear DG834G

amosworks

MercilessKiller wrote:

I'd like to see you break encryption.. and if you did.. i'd wonder why you go to the effort when theres plenty of unsecure networks around

Over confidence is a source of more problems than incorrectly configured products

MercilessKiller

amosworks wrote:

Over confidence is a source of more problems than incorrectly configured products

Lol... funny guy

Zone Alarm causes more problem than protecting.

If you re-read my original post, i recommended disabling the firewall for testing purposes If the network works with the firewall disabled, then the person knows to invest in a better software product that can be configured for use with networks

If people want to use a firewall fine I was just mentioning it as many people who can't connect to networks, well, its usually a zone alarm prob

amosworks

Oh hell yeah that program's nasty, it's iptables all the way with me

I don't see how ZA could actually interfere with the network connectivity, rather than network usage though? Or does ZA burrow itself ever-deeper with each release? :undecided

MercilessKiller

amosworks wrote:

Oh hell yeah that program's nasty, it's iptables all the way with me

I don't see how ZA could actually interfere with the network connectivity, rather than network usage though? Or does ZA burrow itself ever-deeper with each release? :undecided

Lol who knows.

My aunt a few weeks ago told me she called out a computer guy at £40 an hour to fix her network.. they couldn't transfer files and one computer had trouble connecting to the network.

He said he couldn't fix it and it would be a hardware problem after an entire day. I went over to have a look, but she was very sceptical.

15 minutes later, and a version of zone alarm disabled, and the network ran perfectly.

luck?

Tharweb

MercilessKiller wrote:

Tharweb:

Before entering ISP details a network can be set up. In other words several computers accessing each other. Once this is succesful you can enter ISP details to see if you can successfully connect.

So a network can be created without ISP details :S

The OP is asking about connecting to the internet. Worded my answer badly, agreed, but you can't connect to your own ISP if you haven't entered their details in the router surely...you knew what I meant :rolleyes:

albertross_2

Merciless,

Zonealarm was just doing it's job, which is blocking file sharing (and every other port) by default.. this can be overriden if required.. without needing to disable the product completely.

The same applies to XP firewall, you can leave file sharing enabled, by using the exceptions screen.

Using both a hardware and software firewall gives you protection from worms infecting your internal network, if you have an open unencrypted router, you could catch one from the neighbours.

MercilessKiller

albertross wrote:

Merciless,

Zonealarm was just doing it's job, which is blocking file sharing (and every other port) by default.. this can be overriden if required.. without needing to disable the product completely.

The same applies to XP firewall, you can leave file sharing enabled, by using the exceptions screen.

Using both a hardware and software firewall gives you protection from worms infecting your internal network, if you have an open unencrypted router, you could catch one from the neighbours.

Albertross.. i understand that.. but once again i was saying for TESTING purposes.. not permanent solutions :S

Testing != Solution.

If it works without it.. then you know what the problem is right? If you ignore it completely it could still be the problem

I didn't suggest leaving the router unencrypted.. quite the opposite actually. anyway ye.. we're on the same level there...


Tharweb:

If the op has a problem connecting to the web. yes you're right and i'm mistaken for misreading.. the DG834G can be tricky getting the ISP details in... but just make sure you leave most options as default except for username and password.. if you are getting an error message such as "LCP Down" when pressing "Test Connection", its possible there is a problem at your ISP's end

albertross_2

Merciless,

Apologies.., It's getting late.. I read and responded to that one post in isolation, without realising it was by the same person who had suggested turning it off for diagnostic purposes (which is perfectly legit)..

Sorry for sticking my nose in, and not adding anything to the OP's problem.. (there are a couple of things that turn me off reading threads properly and trying to help.. arguments, and hijackthis logs.. both result in rapid use of the page down key..).

There have been a few threads of late which in my opinion have been giving bad advice, turn off this, get rid of that cos it's crap.. etc.. If the less technical read these, and for example turn off their firewall as a result, then they could end up with problems, so I was just sticking up for firewalls, which are in general beneficial, although ZA pro likes to phone home and open ports to it's own servers..so I have reverted to the free version (and a router)..

MercilessKiller

albertross wrote:

Merciless,

Apologies.., It's getting late.. I read and responded to that one post in isolation, without realising it was by the same person who had suggested turning it off for diagnostic purposes (which is perfectly legit)..

Sorry for sticking my nose in, and not adding anything to the OP's problem.. (there are a couple of things that turn me off reading threads properly and trying to help.. arguments, and hijackthis logs.. both result in rapid use of the page down key..).

There have been a few threads of late which in my opinion have been giving bad advice, turn off this, get rid of that cos it's crap.. etc.. If the less technical read these, and for example turn off their firewall as a result, then they could end up with problems, so I was just sticking up for firewalls, which are in general beneficial, although ZA pro likes to phone home and open ports to it's own servers..so I have reverted to the free version (and a router)..

Thanks for your apologies mate good that people can show friendship on these forums haha

In the past I have recommended disabling firewalls for testings purposes resulting in other people biting my head off.. I don't think some people realise what the word testing means these days glad you understand though!

If the firewall ends up to be the cause of the problem, more posts can result in the fixing of it. Until then there's no harm in testing.

Personally hijackthis logs are VERY important when considering spyware/viruses such as lop and css.. i'm curious as to why you pagedown unless you mean when they're included for unrelated reasons....

Anyway ye... lets hope the OP can connect :rolleyes:

albertross_2

I know they are important sometimes and required to solve more complex spyware problems etc.. They are just a big turn off for me.. one is ok (maybe), but when one thread has 20 pages of hijack this logs, I really can't be bothered to read them, especially when they are posted too early in the diagnostic process.. I just move on to a different problem, and leave it to others who can be bothered..

I would prefer people to use an online analyser, and post an edited version (the warnings), which require some human advice.

My other gripe about them, which I have mentioned before, is that the net is being taken over by hijackthis logs..Put any common exe name into a search engine, and you have to wade through 1000's of pages of hijackthis logs, before you find out some facts..