CSA want my wifes salary confirmation

ladylumps45

:Tpmsl!!:rotfl:thats hilarious.well done zara!so hes a liar too.youve got to have a brilliant memory to be a good liar jamiemaboy.so youre wife walked out on you too.i thought that would make you more understanding.the cruise is certainly in your dreams lamo:rotfl:

nicolabrown81

JLBarber wrote: »

I am an absent father. Am I obliged to give the CSA confirmation of my new wifes salary. Its her wage and she thinks that her money shouldn't be counted. Shes not happy about it. She says whats the point in her working?
(The CSA have asked for confirmation)

No, they shouldnt be asking for your wifes salary details. My husband pays csa for his daughter from a previous marriage and they dont take my wages into account.

Soubrette

nicolabrown81 wrote: »

No, they shouldnt be asking for your wifes salary details. My husband pays csa for his daughter from a previous marriage and they dont take my wages into account.

Are you on CSA1 or 2 nicola, as this does make a difference.

On CSA2 then partner's income is not taken into account at all as payments are set purely on the take home of the NRP. On CSA1 all sorts of other household payments are taken into account and it may be sometimes beneficial to disclose your partner's income details.

Sou

nicolabrown81

Soubrette wrote: »

Are you on CSA1 or 2 nicola, as this does make a difference.

On CSA2 then partner's income is not taken into account at all as payments are set purely on the take home of the NRP. On CSA1 all sorts of other household payments are taken into account and it may be sometimes beneficial to disclose your partner's income details.

Sou

I'm not quite sure to be hones Sou, we have only been paying csa for the past year so I assume its CSA2. We have currently had it reduced as we have had a baby but only by £15 a month (which hasnt been reduced yet!)! Shocking really, we pay £200 a month and his ex wife is on a higher wage than myself and my husband put together! His ex wife also lives with her boyfriend in his house and she has told us she pays no rent and only buys food for them all! How is this fair, it seems his first daughter is entitled too more than our daughter which we have had together. Its also a 6 hour round trip to see my step daughter and we have to pay for that along with hotel costs as her mother wont let us bring her home for a weekend due to the distance, so its ok for our 9 week old baby to travel the 6 hour round trip but not my step daughter who is almost 7!!! Doesnt make sense.

Also we phoned CSA over a month ago now to look at our payments as they still havent been reduced and they havent taken into account our over payments! How come when they are wanting money off us they want this yesterday but if its the other way round they never sort it out???

Sorry moan over!

duchy

Nice work Miss Marple

Soubrette

nicolabrown81 wrote: »

I'm not quite sure to be hones Sou, we have only been paying csa for the past year so I assume its CSA2. We have currently had it reduced as we have had a baby but only by £15 a month (which hasnt been reduced yet!)! Shocking really, we pay £200 a month and his ex wife is on a higher wage than myself and my husband put together! His ex wife also lives with her boyfriend in his house and she has told us she pays no rent and only buys food for them all! How is this fair, it seems his first daughter is entitled too more than our daughter which we have had together. Its also a 6 hour round trip to see my step daughter and we have to pay for that along with hotel costs as her mother wont let us bring her home for a weekend due to the distance, so its ok for our 9 week old baby to travel the 6 hour round trip but not my step daughter who is almost 7!!! Doesnt make sense.

Also we phoned CSA over a month ago now to look at our payments as they still havent been reduced and they havent taken into account our over payments! How come when they are wanting money off us they want this yesterday but if its the other way round they never sort it out???

Sorry moan over!

Yeah - it will be CSA2 then which is based purely on the take home pay of your husband.

Have you spoken to the CSA about a variation? Explain that you are spending a lot of money in travel costs and having to stay in hotels and they should send you out a form where you detail these expenses. The CSA will then deem whether or not your child maintenance liability will reduce. Keep all evidence though - petrol receipts and hotel receipts (if you haven't kept those then credit card statements might be sufficient).

You will get any overpayments back eventually - small comfort I know - also with the CSA you have to keep on at them, if phoning then always take the name of the person you spoke to, some say deal with them only in writing (always send special delivery so they can't claim non receipt) and don't be scared to send it a complaint. Did they give any timescales of when your monthly payments would be amended? As soon as those pass then phone them up and complain. If you're not happy with the response then send a letter in headed up 'complaint'. If you're not happy with that then it should be referred to their complaints dept and if you are still not happy then contact your MP.

I know this is hard in your situation but you have to put out your mind how much the PWCs partner earns - his earnings don't count in the same way that your earnings don't count - Mum and Dad are responsible for the upkeep of their children and if Mum is lucky enough to find someone to subsidise her, it is no more your business than it would be hers if you won the lottery (buy all tickets in your name ). That said it is unfair that your partner's current responsibilities are not being taken into account - keep on at the CSA.

Is the PWC likely to change her mind about your step daughter visiting? Does she let her visit in school holidays etc? Perhaps you could start there with a view to negotiating some weekends in the future at your house?

Good luck (both PWCs and NRPs know how frustrating dealing with the CSA is and no one minds you moaning here )

Sou

Paparika

jamiemaboy wrote: »

oh diddums ,has an absent parent managed to rattle you a little bit ??? bout time someone like my stood up for absent parents ,i am paying £1.00 per week for my two kids (50p each lol) and guess what?, my wife is in a great paying job allowing me to take time out until as such time my two kids leave further education so that i dont give my ex more than she is entitled to by law .Can the CSA take my wifes wages into account? NO! why do you think that? because i am totally correct that i have managed to beat the dreaded CSA .i am taking my two boys on ANOTHER cruise this year and as my ex cant afford to take them anywhere and i am a wonderful father who clothes,feeds and gives them lots of love and pocketmoney.would anyone like a postcard??? silly silly yappy people ...start telling the people the correct answers instead of usin this a chat line cos your bored :T

Shut up you pompous git.

a pound a week, WOW that really will cover the bills for providing heating and lighting and feeding your children when they are at home with mum, no wonder she can't afford to take them on holiday when all her money goes on supporting YOUR children. (when you don't have them on cruises that is - hope you don't take them out of school term time)

You think you are special for fiddling the system yeah your special alright

nicolabrown81

Soubrette wrote: »

Yeah - it will be CSA2 then which is based purely on the take home pay of your husband.

Have you spoken to the CSA about a variation? Explain that you are spending a lot of money in travel costs and having to stay in hotels and they should send you out a form where you detail these expenses. The CSA will then deem whether or not your child maintenance liability will reduce. Keep all evidence though - petrol receipts and hotel receipts (if you haven't kept those then credit card statements might be sufficient).

You will get any overpayments back eventually - small comfort I know - also with the CSA you have to keep on at them, if phoning then always take the name of the person you spoke to, some say deal with them only in writing (always send special delivery so they can't claim non receipt) and don't be scared to send it a complaint. Did they give any timescales of when your monthly payments would be amended? As soon as those pass then phone them up and complain. If you're not happy with the response then send a letter in headed up 'complaint'. If you're not happy with that then it should be referred to their complaints dept and if you are still not happy then contact your MP.

I know this is hard in your situation but you have to put out your mind how much the PWCs partner earns - his earnings don't count in the same way that your earnings don't count - Mum and Dad are responsible for the upkeep of their children and if Mum is lucky enough to find someone to subsidise her, it is no more your business than it would be hers if you won the lottery (buy all tickets in your name ). That said it is unfair that your partner's current responsibilities are not being taken into account - keep on at the CSA.

Is the PWC likely to change her mind about your step daughter visiting? Does she let her visit in school holidays etc? Perhaps you could start there with a view to negotiating some weekends in the future at your house?

Good luck (both PWCs and NRPs know how frustrating dealing with the CSA is and no one minds you moaning here )

Sou

Thanks Sou,

We did fill out one of those forms when we first started paying but the payments were only reduced my 30quid a month when we spend £154 a month and thats just for petrol and accommodation, we have to pay for kennels for our 2 dogs at 80quid for the weekend and then food on top of that. She does come and stop with us in the school holidays but only in the summer for 2 weeks cause we are only allowed her then. How come when we do have her for 2 weeks we still have to pay for a full month?? Dont seem fair when we are having to also pay! Also one more thing, my husbands in the army, when he goes on tour to Afghan he gets paid more due to the danger risk etc, why should she be entitled to some of this, my husband risks his life and deserves the extra money but loses just over half of this as it goes to her????

Promise i've finished now!! Cant you tell I hate the CSA!!

Zara33

nicolabrown81 wrote: »

Promise i've finished now!! Cant you tell I hate the CSA!!

:whistle: you will find a few of us here do whether we are PWC, NRP or NRPP.

Soubrette

nicolabrown81 wrote: »

Thanks Sou,

We did fill out one of those forms when we first started paying but the payments were only reduced my 30quid a month when we spend £154 a month and thats just for petrol and accommodation, we have to pay for kennels for our 2 dogs at 80quid for the weekend and then food on top of that. She does come and stop with us in the school holidays but only in the summer for 2 weeks cause we are only allowed her then. How come when we do have her for 2 weeks we still have to pay for a full month?? Dont seem fair when we are having to also pay! Also one more thing, my husbands in the army, when he goes on tour to Afghan he gets paid more due to the danger risk etc, why should she be entitled to some of this, my husband risks his life and deserves the extra money but loses just over half of this as it goes to her????

Promise i've finished now!! Cant you tell I hate the CSA!!

So do I but to be honest the access issues are not the CSAs doing - although I do understand your frustration at the expenses of seeing your step daughter not being properly reflected in your reduction.

The two weeks that you see your step daughter will be included in the number of nights that you see her overall. So if you see her for 52 nights of the year then you should see a 1/7 reduction in the 15% net take home that your husband pays, if you see her for 104 nights in a year then it's 2/7 reduction etc etc. So although it doesn't seem to count - if you have enough nights over all then it does count.

Is there any reason that you couldn't negotiate less weekends but half the school holidays? That might be more cost effective but you would still be seeing her the same number of nights so shouldn't affect your assessment? (I know counting nights seem counter intuitive as children don't actually cost much at night and the only reason I can think that the CSA do this is that it is rare for a child to change from one parent to another during the night but it could happen frequently during the day).

I don't understand why he loses half his danger money (sorry if that's a politically incorrect term - I don't know the proper one ) to his daughter - he is supposed to pay 15% of his take home less the small amount due to the variation less the small amount because he now has a baby with you and less any 'nights' that he sees her, so this should always be the same percentage amount - it will only vary because his take home varies - how can it suddenly jump to 50%? Could you give me some figures so I can see where you are coming from?

Sou