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Option ARM timebomb set to explode....

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  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    I'm moving to North Dakota :cool:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • julieq
    julieq Posts: 2,603 Forumite
    Isn't North Dakota due to be taken out by the Yellowstone park timebomb though?
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    Dont be such a pessemist!
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    http://www.businessweek.com/investing/wall_street_news_blog/archives/2009/07/option_arm_loan.html
    Posted by: Mara Der Hovanesian on July 27
    Those nasty pick-a-pay mortgages, the ones that allowed borrowers to pay less than interest thereby adding to principal balances every month, continue to be among the most worrisome mortgages still going bad.
    And modification efforts are going nowhere. Lots of folks, including The Motley Fool and a Mortgage Law Network blog continue to lament the failure of modifications so far. The problems seem to be particularly acute with option ARMS. About 40% of the option adjustable rate mortgages that were underwritten in 2006 and 2007 are already delinquent. But less than 10% of those loans, which have accumulated higher balances because borrowers were allowed to defer more than just interest, have been modified. The worry is that when the interest rates and payments eventually recast to higher payments (as the loan contract calls for) yet even more borrowers will throw in the towel and go delinquent.
    New Barclays Capital research from Sandeep Bordia and colleagues shows that the recasts in the next year or so are expected to be a minor event. But by mid-2011, these borrowers are forecast to see payments that are 50% to 80% higher than what they are grappling with now. (Many of these option ARMS are concentrated in former hot-spot real estate markets, such as California and Florida.)
    Modification don't seem to be working with these particularly noxious loans. In the face rising payments, borrowers don't have an incentive to keep up with their current payments for homes that are already so horrendously under water, i.e. the loan amount is far above the current value of the property. Bordia says that many of the option ARM loans that do get modified turn delinquent soon after anyway. They've crunched some numbers and forecast that 95% of the loans that are slated for modification will eventually default. If you think that sounds bad, get this: They say that 80% of the option ARM loans out there that are ok and up-to-date as of right now will eventually default, too.


    Heres the bit for all you doubting thomasses!

    Maybe that bit of new analysis will finally dispel any lingering notions that these loans were intended and sold to only the very best credit quality home buyer.

    Nice. As I say,Timebomb tick tick tick... Kerboom!
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    The more of 2009 that goes by the more I'm beginning to think that the whole situation has been postponed in the UK until after the election when all the funny money stops. The option ARM's are just another weight to add on along with CC defaults to come. Are any of our banks exposed to the ARM's ?
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,036 Forumite
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    Arm would be in the cdo some of them hold, the big lucky dip type of mortgage security they all bought into and held as a tier 2 asset I think it was


    Forget FT, yahoo answers is where its at

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090325112644AA3AvY0
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Arm would be in the cdo some of them hold, the big lucky dip type of mortgage security they all bought into and held as a tier 2 asset I think it was


    Forget FT, yahoo answers is where its at

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090325112644AA3AvY0

    the assumption to make here would be what volume would the option arm be hedged within these CDO's for it impact the banks and provide them with losses.
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    chucky wrote: »
    the assumption to make here would be what volume would the option arm be hedged within these CDO's for it impact the banks and provide them with losses.
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    edited 29 July 2009 at 8:45PM
    mewbie wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    that's the 4th thread you followed me across to post something idiotic...

    what's up - didn't you understand. i know it's a bit complex but don't worry you're just a bit thick not totally thick
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    chucky wrote: »
    the assumption to make here would be what volume would the option arm be hedged within these CDO's for it impact the banks and provide them with losses.
    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
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