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  • it feels quite nice Buffy. a relief.

    Don't mind you asking, well I'm forty now so I would guess I have been in debt around twenty two years...:eek::eek: I have been DF a couple of times when moving house but only for a couple of months at a time so didn't really learn anything. LBM would be around Aug 06 when debt was a few thousand more than in my siggy. but since finding here I've been on holiday a couple of times and bought a new car so I have no idea where the money was going before....:confused:

    Its amazing isn't it, how much money I must have simply frittered away. makes ill if I think about it too much!

    Impressive tho 40 days!!

    I think I might rework mine and see what is going on had no cash card this week so money is a bit "out there"

    xxx
    Nevertheless she persisted.
  • beanielou wrote: »
    !!!!!! are these bleepi;ng MP's like?
    I would be Df by now:eek:
    Think Gordon Brown is for the chop.


    Have there been any developments or is it still moat cleaning and I was only following the rules crap?

    xx
    Nevertheless she persisted.
  • Toto
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    All sounds good Toto. I do sometimes wonder if we all genuinely believed we could make a difference we actually would make a difference. I think we'd all want those things but talk ourselves out of being able to change things. Does that make sense?

    I mean I could (and did:o) work out a whole new system of government etc and have a much better world but my study of History tells me different.

    The human race is so weird we have all this capicity for greatness but waste it so much.

    I think you are absolutely right. I think the problem is that we are kept too busy surviving most of the time. It's really hard to think about how one little person could do anything when you're fighting through life trying to keep a roof over your head and the bills paid. Sometimes I wonder if the govenrment keep us poor on purpose, after all, too much time on peoples hands has got to be a bad thing, they could do stuff like think, and that's the last thing we're wanted to do.

    I also think that people believe that government is really complicated and difficult. Obviously the MPs want us to believe this, how else are they going to explain away their monumental balls ups. They don't want the great unwashed thinking we could do a better job.

    I think we could. Everyone has something they believe in passionately, issues that have affected them and their families, throw in a good dose of common sense and there is the answer to how things should be and how change could happen.
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  • skint_spice
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    Its amazing isn't it, how much money I must have simply frittered away. makes ill if I think about it too much!

    Never, ever try and work out how much money you could have saved by now if only you'd saved a bit each month - it's very depressing! Can you tell I've gone down that road?:o
    Impressive tho 40 days!!

    forty days - yes but remember the other 22 years!:D
    I think I might rework mine and see what is going on had no cash card this week so money is a bit "out there"

    Good luck with that, always better when you know what you've got to work with. You could always make your fortune as a snail breeder...;)
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    GB Constituency is really neat to me.Peeps cannot afford their mortgage payments and yet MP's are claiming for mortgages that actually they dident have.:eek:And breathe.
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  • Toto
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    beanielou wrote: »
    GB Constituency is really neat to me.Peeps cannot afford their mortgage payments and yet MP's are claiming for mortgages that werew actually had.And breathe.
    ]

    This whole expenses thing is b0llox, they should get paid a decent working salary and get to claim nothing else, not even a cup of tea at a motorway service station.
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  • Toto
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    They should also be prosecuted; it's just benefit fraud on a grander scale.
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  • Doomcow
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    its not benefit fraud if its within the rules

    bareing in mind that they / their predecessors wrote the rules.

    nothing wrong with it - we are the ones who voted them in so if anyone is to blame then its we the plebs.

    all in all its a tiny amount in comparisson to GDP.
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  • skint_spice
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    I don't agree with that Toto - why should the MPs from the highlands have to incur expenses that inner london MPs wouldn't have? they would either end up out of touch with their constituents or not sitting in the house very often.
    the current system isn't working and seems mad but they MUST sort it out soon surely?
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  • Toto wrote: »
    I think you are absolutely right. I think the problem is that we are kept too busy surviving most of the time. It's really hard to think about how one little person could do anything when you're fighting through life trying to keep a roof over your head and the bills paid. Sometimes I wonder if the govenrment keep us poor on purpose, after all, too much time on peoples hands has got to be a bad thing, they could do stuff like think, and that's the last thing we're wanted to do.

    I also think that people believe that government is really complicated and difficult. Obviously the MPs want us to believe this, how else are they going to explain away their monumental balls ups. They don't want the great unwashed thinking we could do a better job.

    I think we could. Everyone has something they believe in passionately, issues that have affected them and their families, throw in a good dose of common sense and there is the answer to how things should be and how change could happen.

    Yep completely agree with all of it. You are so right Toto xxxx

    The minute you actually start to think about the sums of money you hear on the news how much things cost (and you wonder how they can be that expensive - olympics etc) and then you wonder about all the fancy job titles and how much Mp's have swindled and even in school how people get paid for doing !!!!!!!! all when some children's basic needs are not met. And if everyone actually knew it for sure (ie not hyped up right wing paper talk) we would never vote for it ever. none of it makes sense!

    Had glass of wine and am distracted by Omen II (!) so that is why this is rambley
    Nevertheless she persisted.
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