Landlord pressuring to sign for another 12 months

Gloomy_Past_Bright_Future

Pee wrote: »

You want to be able to move out at a months notice and not surprisingly your landlord would like a longer commitment from you. If you don't like it, move out and let him find another tenant, if he can, who better suits that plan.

You aren't really a good tenant, you are planning to move out leaving a rental void... I can see why you want to do this, but I can also see why the landlord doesn't. Could you compromise and agree six months?

NO,

Where did i say I planned to leave a rental void?

Sorry for not being a good tenant, hopefully I am not your tenant, so you can be happy about that!

Gwhiz

Why not offer to sign a 6 month contract (or 12 month with a 6 month break) at a reduced rental or else go periodic at same rate? LL can then decide if they want max rent or guaranteed income!

I've just done that and the LL was happy to keep me here for another 6 months even for a 20% rent reduction as I am a good tenant,

Gwhiz

Pee wrote: »

You want to be able to move out at a months notice and not surprisingly your landlord would like a longer commitment from you. If you don't like it, move out and let him find another tenant, if he can, who better suits that plan.

You aren't really a good tenant, you are planning to move out leaving a rental void... I can see why you want to do this, but I can also see why the landlord doesn't. Could you compromise and agree six months?

That's a bit strong. I just think that the OP needs to think a bit more creatively as per my post above. A tenant wishing for max flexibility because they are thinking of buying makes them no worse a tenant than a LL pressuring for a 12 month makes them a bad LL!

westv

Pee wrote: »

You want to be able to move out at a months notice and not surprisingly your landlord would like a longer commitment from you. If you don't like it, move out and let him find another tenant, if he can, who better suits that plan.

You aren't really a good tenant, you are planning to move out leaving a rental void... I can see why you want to do this, but I can also see why the landlord doesn't. Could you compromise and agree six months?

Wouldn't moving out after a 12 month contract or moving out after a months notice both as likely as each other to produce a void month?

Geenie

Gloomy_Past_Bright_Future wrote: »

Geenie:-

Yes, we have been really honest with them from the start, said we would be happy to sign for a year but we are looking to buy after that.

It is so annoying we have replastered and redecorated walls, when the curtain rail came crashing down as it was only held in with wood screws on lining board!!, we had a small electric fire and have rewired the kitchen and heating system, as the wiring was dangerous, with nothing being earthed, (hence the fire!) decked the garden with full patio area. The rent has never been late.

So as you can see being a good tennant does not mean you get treated well in return!

I know they are under pressure, they only bought their houses over the last 4 years, and gone are the porsche and BMW they first turned up in, but that is not my fault!!

We don't want to move we have two kids and another on the way, so moving and taking on a tennancy for 6 months before buying our own house, is not ideal we just wanted to go on a rolling tennancy then if we see somewhere we like we are in a good position to buy. It may take 2 months it may take 2 years, who knows??, we just don't want the restriction.

Make sure you have kept receipts and details of all the improvements you have made to the place, so that there is no dispute about giving your deposit back. And I think you have been an excellent tenant. I would have been pleased to have you in one of my properties. LL's have to accept that sometimes tenants want to move out at some stage. It's part of the business and includes having to find new ones. I can't see driving out a good tenant before needed is a wise move, as at least they are still getting reliable income at present.

adg1

franklee wrote: »

Giving a good tenant notice just because they want a periodic tenancy is bonkers and I don't think any right thinking landlord would do it. If the landlord wants the highest income then the best thing he can do in the current market is to retain the current proven tenant. Kicking them out for an unknown tenant with an unknown void is the way to reduce the landlord's income!

Indeed, but not all landlords think that way! It IS possible that he could rent it straight away to a great tenant for more money (unlikely I grant you!).

From the LL's POV, what if that current tenant has said that s/he is thinking of buying a house, hence requires a flexible contract so they can leave with just 1 months notice, which they could offer the day after the fixed term AST ends?

franklee

adg1 wrote: »

Indeed, but not all landlords think that way! It IS possible that he could rent it straight away to a great tenant for more money (unlikely I grant you!).

Not going to happen as the OP says rents have declined in the area.

adg1 wrote: »

From the LL's POV, what if that current tenant has said that s/he is thinking of buying a house, hence requires a flexible contract so they can leave with just 1 months notice, which they could offer the day after the fixed term AST ends?

The OP hasn't as yet found anywhere to buy so isn't likely to move out soon if allowed a periodic:

Gloomy_Past_Bright_Future wrote: »

we just wanted to go on a rolling tennancy then if we see somewhere we like we are in a good position to buy. It may take 2 months it may take 2 years, who knows??, we just don't want the restriction.

Buying a house is likely to take three months from after it's been found, possibly longer if a chain collapses. So chances are high the current proven tenant will be around for some time yet.

If the landlord kicks them out now then he is guaranteed the hassle of finding another tenant now and who is to say how long they will stay? If the landlord allows the periodic tenancy then it's likely he will get another six months form the current proven good tenant, maybe a bit more maybe a bit less.

Every few months extra any given tenant stays adds up so hopefully in the long run cuts down the number of times the landlord has a change of tenants.

isplumm

Hi,

In the current climate, I would be asking for a rent reduction & only signing a six month contract with a 1 month notice period.

Some of the guys I work with, have just done this - managed to get £200 a month off rent.

Its a buyers market ....

Mark

new2civvystreet

hello, everyone, I'm a bit confused and could do with some advice. I'm getting 2 conflicting arguments from this thread:

I'm on a 6 month AST and I've just had a letter from my letting agent, 2 months before the AST ends asking me to either tell them, within the next 14 days, if I want to renew the tenancy for another 6 months or vacate the property. I would like invisible option C which is to let it go to a rolling contract with a months notice. As far as I can make out I have the right to let it roll to a Statutory Periodic Assured Shorthold Tenancy Agreement. Is this the case.

Please don't tell me that this would make me a bad tenant wanting to only give a months notice. My employer keeps moving me around and come september has suggested that they might move me over an hour away from the flat and if I opt to move out, I could end up homeless while I try and get something else. A month's notice would give me time to find somewhere else and I'd only have to commute over an hour each way for a month instead of 6 - I can't afford to do that.

giruzz

new2civvystreet wrote: »

hello, everyone, I'm a bit confused and could do with some advice. I'm getting 2 conflicting arguments from this thread:

I'm on a 6 month AST and I've just had a letter from my letting agent, 2 months before the AST ends asking me to either tell them, within the next 14 days, if I want to renew the tenancy for another 6 months or vacate the property. I would like invisible option C which is to let it go to a rolling contract with a months notice. As far as I can make out I have the right to let it roll to a Statutory Periodic Assured Shorthold Tenancy Agreement. Is this the case.

Please don't tell me that this would make me a bad tenant wanting to only give a months notice. My employer keeps moving me around and come september has suggested that they might move me over an hour away from the flat and if I opt to move out, I could end up homeless while I try and get something else. A month's notice would give me time to find somewhere else and I'd only have to commute over an hour each way for a month instead of 6 - I can't afford to do that.

Hello,

I start to think we may have the same EA. Anyway... I had the same problem, I received the same letter from my EA which was asking for a new contract with a fee for £120 or out of the property. I called Shelter and I'm told that if you live in England:

1) After the AST ends you are going to periodic
2) No matter what the contract says, if you are on a periodic then the notice is only one month
3) No one can force you to sign a new contract
4) Regardless contract or periodic you still have 2 months notice from the day you received a S21
5) If you prefer, you could leave on the day your contract expires, without having to give any notice (just handle the keys in).

Regards,

giruzz