help please -just discovered son working

Blue_Horizon

kelloggs36 wrote: »

However, if CB is in payment (up to the age of 19) then the CSA will remain involved - the CSA won't investigate whether CB is correctly in payment and will assume that it is, and if it is, then the child is a qualifying child.

In my case CB was being correctly paid as my son had left his course and almost immediately signed up for another course that started within the 20 weeks grace period that CB provides.

The CSA appeals unit accepted that he ceased to be a qualifying child during this period as the PWC admitted that he had left of his own choice.

vickc9

How do you know your son is not at college and working a part time job too??... which they are allowed to do.

I know.... the really easy thing to do is to ASK YOUR SON!!!

Or have you not been in contact with him since he was born?!! More like you've had to pay the maintainance and bloody begrudge it!! Typical.

My advice to you is do what u will.... shop her.. make her life a misery for a few months.. i wouldn't bother trying to talk to her to sort it out because obviously shes a nightmare ex... why don't you warn her first if u have this evidence, shes bought your son up for goodness sake have some compassion!!

trevormax

vickc9 wrote: »

How do you know your son is not at college and working a part time job too??... which they are allowed to do.

I know.... the really easy thing to do is to ASK YOUR SON!!!

Or have you not been in contact with him since he was born?!! More like you've had to pay the maintainance and bloody begrudge it!! Typical.

My advice to you is do what u will.... shop her.. make her life a misery for a few months.. i wouldn't bother trying to talk to her to sort it out because obviously shes a nightmare ex... why don't you warn her first if u have this evidence, shes bought your son up for goodness sake have some compassion!!

You sound like you are the bitter ex wife in this case. Read the OP's posts, they don't even know where he lives. They also do not mind paying CS when it should be paid but why shoud they pay when they are not supposed to pay.

If a creditor was taking money from you when they were not supposed to, I bet you would be screaming bloody murder about it.

Blonde_Bint

trevormax wrote: »

You sound like you are the bitter ex wife in this case. Read the OP's posts, they don't even know where he lives. They also do not mind paying CS when it should be paid but why shoud they pay when they are not supposed to pay.

If a creditor was taking money from you when they were not supposed to, I bet you would be screaming bloody murder about it.

Hmmm, thats very true you know Vic. If you had a store card with 300 quid on it and you were paying it off a tenner a month, when it was paid off if they carried on taking it you would want it stopped and any monies wrongly taken, payed back, quite rightly too.

I'm feeling a touch of the the old 'do you begrudge your child this cash' aiming at me bonce:D, its not about begrudging our children the money to support them. There has to be a cut off point where we say the kids are 18/20/adults now they must support themselves or be prepared to do without. This seems to have gone up to about 20 now which IMO is too old. but for argument say 20 we should be helping them stand on their own two feet and dripping them money every month only will only encourage an 'i'll sit on my ar se and let someone else hand it out to me for nothing' generation.

I cant wait until they up this to 30 lol, i'll leave scoarch marks on my way to that office to fill my form in:rotfl:

revels

this is 100% true. we will continue to pay as his son is 19 next month and it can take months for an appeal. we have payed child support for over 10 years and never missed a payment. we also buy clothes for my husbands 15 yr old daughter and mobil phones and recently paid £300 for driving lessons for his nearly 19 yr old son. another thing is, wot is this disposable income? we have never had anything like that. 20% of my husbands wages is taken off for child support. nothing has ever been taken into account. didnt know anything like that until i came onto this site a few days ago. we just got a sum to pay by the csa and we pay it. think we have had the wool pulled over our eyes for the passed 10 years.

vickc9

Maybe i'm bitter.... theres too many men/women trying to justify stopping paying maintanance towards their own children, looking for a get out clause... estranged... thats ok then it's all down to how people phrase their questions is it, so was it the sons choice to be estranged from his father... not many children choose to become estranged from their parents through choice do they?!

Maybe the mum made it difficult?.. you have got rights as the parent without care you know!!
If shes right that he isn't at college anymore than fair enough... stop paying, it wouldn't be fair.

Like most parents most if not all of my money goes on my kids one way or another.. i don't think u lot realise how expensive teanagers are!!

Blonde_Bint

never meant to imply yers was bitter me duck no, I like to keep implications and finger pointing and other such references out of my posts. However, as you have pointed out, things can be taken the wrong way, happens quite a lot round here you know:rotfl:

as an nrpp thats my only experiance, and I have never been a pwc but from this forum have found out things that pwc go through and had things pointed out which I hadnt thought of before.

I do believe that at about between 18 20yrs old a child should be encouraged to, manage their own finances and live within their means, there is a lot of personal satisfaction to be gained from buying the things that you want with your own money.

debt12

We have just been through this too, my stepson started working in July and we informed the CSA, they said they will investigate. Now dont get me wrong we have been paying CSA for 9 years as well as giving him money for clothes, football subs, school uniform etc and its not that we begrudge my stepson anything as we have still been buying him things here and there whilst he has been working.

After a couple of weeks I chased the CSA still nothing, a couple of weeks later I called them again they said that they had liaised with the CB Office and because the PWC has said that he is not working, then CSA is still payable. So I sent another letter, detailing where he was working, contact details, hours of work and the amount he got paid, I also sent this to the CB Office. Still nothing until last week, I telephoned the help line and actually got through to our Case Officer for the first time. Whilst she appreciated the effort we had gone to to give them the information, they could not act on it because we were directly involved in the case as the NRP and unless the PWC confirmed that he was working then nothing will change. But she did say that if we had a letter from his employer then they would look it at, because I helped get him his job and they know me, his employer had no problem in doing this for me. So the CSA had a letter of employment and phoned the PWC and asked if he was working, she said no, CSA said actually he is and we have a letter from his employer, PWC said 'oh'. The case is now closed and we have been refunded back to the date he started work, the CB have also been informed and she will have to pay back the CSA and CB Office. If it had been a case of being confused or something like that then I could understand, but she lied..simple as that!!

This is just our case and I am not judging anybody else but I would say that the CSA is biast towards the PWC because their guidelines tell them too, this came straight from our Case Officer's mouth.

Sorry for the long thread

frugallass

vickc9 wrote: »

Or have you not been in contact with him since he was born?!! More like you've had to pay the maintainance and bloody begrudge it!! Typical.

shes bought your son up for goodness sake have some compassion!!

all the OP was saying is that he doesn't want to pay more than he is legally bound to pay - surely you can appreciate that ?

Blonde_Bint

frugallass wrote: »

all the OP was saying is that he doesn't want to pay more than he is legally bound to pay - surely you can appreciate that ?

Oh I do, I do I do I do I dooooooooooo Frugallass.

I can appreciate that. Otherwise where does it end. The point at which a child is now an adult needs to be defined again. It used to be very clearly 18yrs and once many years ago, it was 21. Now its a very very very grey unclear muddy area.