MONEY MORAL DILEMMA. Would you give up a £50 train seat for a pregnant woman?

c0c0nuts

Without a shadow of a doubt i'd give up my seat, I had a horrendous pregnancy, combined with epileptic seizures and commuted to and from work for an hour and a half each way, only one person ever gave up their seat for me and I was so grateful.
Besides what the chances of the train being chocka for the full five hours??!
Nowadays I have more trouble getting in and out of shop doorways with the buggy cos the miserable sods round here prefer to watch me struggle.
Have a heart.............

time_traveller_3

Poor (hypothetical) girl. Of course I would give up my seat - anyone been pregnant and felt like the bottom is falling out of your world if you don't sit down? Perhaps a woman nearing retirement getting up for a younger one may move the conscience of the 'smug moders'. Just pass on a good turn, it may be for you next time.

time_traveller_3

hstrike wrote: »

I am pregnant not ignorant. I am also not very well with it. I dont expect anyone to give up a seat for me if they have paid extra for it. There are plenty of alternatives out there. You shouldn't resort to sweeping statements about me and others or emotional blackmail to get your point across.

Of course. It is hard to accept a gift sometimes, but harder to have it refused.

shonarose

SusanC wrote: »

All pregnant women are entitled to the Health in Pregnancy grant regardless of income. I think it's about £200. Also if she was working rather than living off benefits then she is going to get maternity leave paid for by the state.

What is your point - because she has received a grant of (less than £200 actually), the greedy so-and-so doesnt need a seat? The Health in Pregnancy grant is to help women with better nutrition -which, guess what? Means that less state money has to be spent by the NHS on their/their babies' health.

Maternity leave isnt paid for by the state, it is paid for by the employer (only small employers get repaid by the state), but so what? If you HAVE to find a self-interested reason in order to do the right thing : remember that the UK is an ageing population - and her child's taxes will one day be paying for your pension.

It all comes down to what sort of society you want to live in and what sort of person you want to be.

smk77

SusanC wrote: »

All pregnant women are entitled to the Health in Pregnancy grant regardless of income. I think it's about £200.

Also if she was working rather than living off benefits then she is going to get maternity leave paid for by the state.

The state = the pregnant woman as tax payer. Plus, the chances are the tax that she is paying from from her occupational maternity pay will cover a chunk of her SMP anyway and if it doesn't then her partners may well do. I paid more in tax when my wife was on maternity than she got in SMP.

littlebatt

Absolutely - ok - you might not like the fact that you have to stand - but those of you who'd refuse, go home, tie some bricks around your waist, stick pins in your back and try and read a paper standing up while trying to balance.

On the other hand - just imagine what damage she could do if she landed on you!! (not serious)

robpw2

smk77 wrote: »

So someone has to be ill before you have any manners?

You don't seem to have much respect for pregnant women do you At least that's the impression that you are giving to me.

I guess that you've not really had much to do with them as you are clearly ignorant about the physical effects that pregnancy can have on so many women.

Do yourself a favour and have a little think about when you get old and how you may one day be really grateful to someone who is happy to give up their seat for you.

I'm a bloke and I've got a 12 month old boy. I've been on a train with him in his push chair (short journey quiet train) a couple of times. I've had other men helping me to get push chair off the train even though I am capable of pushing it off on my own and also my wife has been with me. I'm very grateful to them for their help as they've clearly tried to make my journey a little bit easier. Would you have done the same as them? I doubt it!

i have a disability and no-one would give their seat up for me so dont you dare make assumptions about me ..

stephgraeme

My Goodness!!!

I cannot believe some of the things being said regarding this!

Surely this is a matter of lndividual manners if you feel wheather you would like to give up your seat not whether you HAVE to...

And the flippant comment regarding pregnant women living off the state is uneducated and ridiculous!

All i can think on this matter is that i hope i have brought my children up in such a way that they would give their seat to ANYBODY they feel would benefit...even if its just for a few minutes..

And to those who wouldnt..karma has a funny way of turning around and biting you on the bum!

hayley11

I don't think I would no. I would need that seat. I'm also "invisibily" disabled and I couldn't physically manage to stand all that time. I would feel guilty about it because like others have said, it's the baby that could potentially be at risk but unless they wanted to cart me off in a stretcher there would be nothing I could do.

tryfive

The answer to that has to be a resounding NO!

That may sound harsh, but the reality is I'd have paid 50.00 GBP for the privilege - and the chances are the guy sitting next to me wouldn't have.

Let HIM give up his seat first.If he won't - why the hell should I? The woman would certainly have no grounds for complaining about my behaviour.