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Distance Selling Regulations - Collected Item

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  • soolin
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    On ebay all you can do is open a dispute (significantly not as described) but then even if you win you will be expected to return the item at your own cost as paypal have no way of enforcing return costs.
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  • phlogeston
    phlogeston Posts: 228 Forumite
    hayley11 wrote: »
    To be honest, if I was the seller, I would expect you to check an item before taking it away so I would also probably expect you to foot at least some of the postage costs to send it back.

    To be honest, as a buyer, I would expect goods to work, and not have to vacuum someone else's house first before taking an item away!;)
  • Jakg
    Jakg Posts: 2,267 Forumite
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    DSR's won't apply here.

    As it is even under the DSR's they won't pay for P&P costs anyway.
    Nothing I say represents any past, present or future employer.
  • Optimist
    Optimist Posts: 4,557 Forumite
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    Graeme1978 wrote: »
    I paid by Visa debit card. I understand there is a chargeback process for debit card transactions?

    Your bank wont be interested the company are asking you to return it for a replacement, not the banks problem.

    You had face to face contact with the supplier and as I said earlier that invalidates any comeback you might have had under DSR

    Bite the bullet, the sooner you take the flaming thing back the sooner you get to clean house !
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
  • phlogeston
    phlogeston Posts: 228 Forumite
    Optimist wrote: »
    Bite the bullet, the sooner you take the flaming thing back the sooner you get to clean house !

    DSR regs do apply as contract was concluded via internet (collection was made after contract formed).

    SoGA also applies - fit for purpose, quality etc.

    Reject the goods (you DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT REPLACEMENT OR REPAIR) and threaten small claims action.

    If seller wants them posted back at your expense, fine, include that in your small claim.

    Alternatively, take the easy route and post back at your expense.
  • foolishboy
    foolishboy Posts: 321 Forumite
    Graeme1978 wrote: »
    I paid by Visa debit card. I understand there is a chargeback process for debit card transactions?

    Yes there is but as I found out recently it's completely dependent on the merchant facilities for the business in question cooperating. In my case they asked the retailer what the deal was, they made up some BS, they believed them (their customer after all) and refused the charge back.

    Foolish
  • phlogeston
    phlogeston Posts: 228 Forumite
    foolishboy wrote: »
    Yes there is but as I found out recently it's completely dependent on the merchant facilities for the business in question cooperating. In my case they asked the retailer what the deal was, they made up some BS, they believed them (their customer after all) and refused the charge back.

    Foolish

    But have you written and rejected the goods?

    They are in breach of contract and are liable for all reasonable costs (including return postage) for that breach.

    You can also return under DSR, but this is a red herring as you are not changing your mind.
  • phlogeston
    phlogeston Posts: 228 Forumite
    Jakg wrote: »
    DSR's won't apply here.

    As it is even under the DSR's they won't pay for P&P costs anyway.

    Please ignore fallacious advice like this...

    DSRs DO apply.

    And the the return is being made because of a faulty product (breach of contract) so the supplier is responsible for the return postage.
  • phlogeston
    phlogeston Posts: 228 Forumite
    Optimist wrote: »
    You had face to face contact with the supplier and as I said earlier that invalidates any comeback you might have had under DSR.

    IT DOESN'T!!

    DSRs apply because the contract was formed using distance selling.

    The mechanism for delivery or dispatch is irrelevant.
  • Optimist
    Optimist Posts: 4,557 Forumite
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    phlogeston wrote: »
    IT DOESN'T!!

    DSRs apply because the contract was formed using distance selling.

    The mechanism for delivery or dispatch is irrelevant.

    Do you find shouting improves your case ?

    "distance contract" means any contract concerning goods or services concluded between a supplier and a consumer under an organised distance sales or service provision scheme run by the supplier who, for the purpose of the contract, makes exclusive use of one or more means of distance communication up to and including the moment at which the contract is concluded;
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
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