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Premium Bonds - NUMBER 10 Petition

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  • isofa
    isofa Posts: 6,091 Forumite
    sash1990 wrote: »
    A basic rule in rewards/prizes is the 'Carrot on a stick'. If the government increase prizes then the number of bond-holders will increase. This will not just benefit the saver but the treasury/government/country.

    Following on from opinions4u above, who is spot on - in response to sash's quote above: this is exactly what the government don't want you to do, which is why they dropped rates on Northern Rock products, withdrew some accounts, and obviously dropped PB rates, to dissuade new money coming into them.

    They want you to spend more, or at least pump it back into the commercial banking sector to shore it up, so they don't have to bail out any more failing banks.
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    the OP says "their chances of winning should be increased greatly" which isn't necessarily the same as increasing the payout rate, but could be achieved by reducing the number of high value prices, and have alot more low value prizes - maybe thats what is meant by the petition ?
  • tradetime
    tradetime Posts: 3,200 Forumite
    edited 9 May 2009 at 11:18AM
    sash1990 wrote: »
    Recession or not, I feel that we do not get enough out of Premium Bonds - so I do think it is relevant.
    The logical solution to that, without petitions is........Don't buy them. When I feel I am not getting value for money from a product I don't buy it, the fact that you do means, perhaps you do feel you are getting value for your money, you just want more?
    sash1990 wrote: »
    A basic rule in rewards/prizes is the 'Carrot on a stick'. If the government increase prizes then the number of bond-holders will increase. This will not just benefit the saver but the treasury/government/country.
    Equally logically, the government clearly feels they are getting sufficient funds from the mix of product offerings they have as it is, wanting more for less really isn't a good sales pitch, but good luck with it anyway.
    As to the number of bond holders increasing, all that achieves is moves money from one part of the economy to another, currently hardly a compelling reason to change anything from a government perspective..
    Hope for the best.....Plan for the worst!

    "Never in the history of the world has there been a situation so bad that the government can't make it worse." Unknown
  • cocktail
    cocktail Posts: 377 Forumite
    in fact reducing the potential wins in premium bonds can theoratically get people pulling money out and investing or saving or spending elsewhere.
  • Hungerdunger
    Hungerdunger Posts: 964 Forumite
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    sash1990 wrote: »
    A basic rule in rewards/prizes is the 'Carrot on a stick'. If the government increase prizes then the number of bond-holders will increase. This will not just benefit the saver but the treasury/government/country.
    ... except that if the number of bond holders increases, your personal chances of winning will reduce so you'll be back to square one.
    "The trouble with quotations on the Internet is that you never know whether they are genuine" - Charles Dickens
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
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    edited 17 May 2009 at 2:50PM
    The prize fund should be cut to discourage people, particularly pensioners, from wasting their money in Premium Bonds when four times the return is available from ordinary term deposit savings accounts, with a 100% capital guarantee from the government for more than the Premium Bond limit.

    Still, the government did listen to the "We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to increase the number of prizes in premium bonds" part by introducing £25 prizes. Well done, it's encouraged people to stick with a losing way of using money, without increasing the payout percentage at all.
  • StarRover
    StarRover Posts: 94 Forumite
    staffie1 wrote: »
    I agree - you talk sense. But you're not the Prime Minister unfortunately ;)

    In fact, this would disbar you from being Prime Minister.
    "L'enfer, c'est les autres"
  • nrsql
    nrsql Posts: 1,919 Forumite
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    If you don't think you get enough return from the product you should withdraw your money.
    If I was in control of the product and received a petition like this I would think that all these people want the rate higher but presumably think it is high enough to keep investing - maybe I should reduce the rate!

    If you want to protest then withdraw your money don't waste time with a petition - unless it is accompanied by a withdrawal.
    An agreement from everyone signing to withdraw a week before the petition is delivered might have an effect.
  • Stompa
    Stompa Posts: 8,381 Forumite
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    These number 10 petitions are generally pretty daft. This particular one seems stupider than most!
    Stompa
  • Fella
    Fella Posts: 7,921 Forumite
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    Unfortunately Gordon Brown does not want you to save, does everything in his power to put you off saving, & finally punishes you if you do save.

    Since he is utterly incompetent he is 100% dependent on endless crazy spending to attempt to balance the books.

    Cue slashed interest rates, pointless cuts in VAT, £2K of taxpayers money per traded-in banger etc etc etc.

    He's hoping the spending will continue long enough to get him voted in (not voted back in of course - no-one has ever voted for him to be leader nor will they). Just hope there's something left of the country when he's finally ousted.
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