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Ryanair: forced to pay taxes at airport
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!!!!!! do you mean by that. As I said, what if there is a problem with your PC or you run out of ink, what's that to do with following simple instructions?? It may cost a lot of money in Poland to print out a boarding card at an airport, but I am sure in this country it's only penniesPolishBigSpender wrote: »Yes, and if Ryanair cut expenses down even further (you printing the pass at the airport costs time and money!) - flights will get even cheaper.
There's always one that can't follow simple instructions...The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.0 -
pennies, plus then the wage for the person to print it out, plus then the cost of the electricity, plus then the cost of the booth that the person sits in.. that'll add up to at least £1..
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I remember that EasyJet had a trial of self-check in machines at EMA, that would be the way forward. At most U.S. airports I have been to that is all there is. We check-in online at the hotel in our room, go to the airport, swipe my passport and hey presto, boarding card appears as if by magic. Me thinks Mr. O'leary doesn't really want too much technology because that would get in the way of the extras he can charge, but going by the way he charges for CC's, maybe not, just turn a blind eye to it when it suits you.The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.0
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!!!!!! do you mean by that. As I said, what if there is a problem with your PC or you run out of ink, what's that to do with following simple instructions?? It may cost a lot of money in Poland to print out a boarding card at an airport, but I am sure in this country it's only pennies
Then you pay. It's rather simple, and keeps Ryanair cheaper for those of us that have the common sense to use another PC or printer rather than complaining about why Ryanair won't provide something for free.
The chances are that Ryanair will have to pay for every pass printed. Given that in most of these airports, the place where you would get a new pass printed isn't actually owned by Ryanair - then they will be paying for your stupidity. So them charging for such stupidity is not only fair, but sensible.
As for those check in machines - the whole point of insisting on online check-in is that they can have all the relevant details (bags, passengers, etc) in advance and thus can plan the flight more effectively. They'll have a good idea as to what the average kg per passenger is - and they can use this, combined with the check-in information to really have a good guess at how to plan things.
Every kilo less counts, and as Ryanair's whole operation is based upon cutting every last cost out to deliver better value to the customer - it's actually sensible.
If you don't like it, fly BA and pay three times the price
From Poland...with love.
They are (they're) sitting on the floor.
Their books are lying on the floor.
The books are sitting just there on the floor.0 -
PolishBigSpender wrote: »Then you pay. It's rather simple, and keeps Ryanair cheaper for those of us that have the common sense to use another PC or printer rather than complaining about why Ryanair won't provide something for free.
The chances are that Ryanair will have to pay for every pass printed. Given that in most of these airports, the place where you would get a new pass printed isn't actually owned by Ryanair - then they will be paying for your stupidity. So them charging for such stupidity is not only fair, but sensible.
As for those check in machines - the whole point of insisting on online check-in is that they can have all the relevant details (bags, passengers, etc) in advance and thus can plan the flight more effectively. They'll have a good idea as to what the average kg per passenger is - and they can use this, combined with the check-in information to really have a good guess at how to plan things.
Every kilo less counts, and as Ryanair's whole operation is based upon cutting every last cost out to deliver better value to the customer - it's actually sensible.
If you don't like it, fly BA and pay three times the price
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Apologies if you read it. I was extremely drunk last night.0 -
What's the weather like from that pedistal you are standing on.PolishBigSpender wrote: »Then you pay. It's rather simple, and keeps Ryanair cheaper for those of us that have the common sense to use another PC or printer rather than complaining about why Ryanair won't provide something for free.
The chances are that Ryanair will have to pay for every pass printed. Given that in most of these airports, the place where you would get a new pass printed isn't actually owned by Ryanair - then they will be paying for your stupidity. So them charging for such stupidity is not only fair, but sensible.
As for those check in machines - the whole point of insisting on online check-in is that they can have all the relevant details (bags, passengers, etc) in advance and thus can plan the flight more effectively. They'll have a good idea as to what the average kg per passenger is - and they can use this, combined with the check-in information to really have a good guess at how to plan things.
Every kilo less counts, and as Ryanair's whole operation is based upon cutting every last cost out to deliver better value to the customer - it's actually sensible.
If you don't like it, fly BA and pay three times the price
Funny that, the most sucessfull and profitable airline in the world, Southwest, only has checkin machines at airports,(as well as on line) guess they are wrong then.
You are wrong, the whole point of on line check in is not having all relevant details, it is to catch out people who are unable, or forget to check in online, like people in a hotel without internet access. If it was to have all the relevant information they would not allow checking in so far in advance, in fact I think this actually does them more harm than good. So I can checkin up to 15 days in advance and then something comes up and I don't go, with flights at £1 how many people do you think just dump flights and not bother, loads is my guess, so they have passengers checked in that have no intention of flying and they won't be aware of it till they give out final calls at departure, possibly delaying flights and lost opportunity of reselling seats.
BTW where does this spare PC come from
The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.0 -
What's the weather like from that pedistal you are standing on.
Funny that, the most sucessfull and profitable airline in the world, Southwest, only has checkin machines at airports,(as well as on line) guess they are wrong then.
You cannot compare European carriers to American carriers, the two just aren't comparable in any way meaningful. Ryanair's operation relies on cutting costs everywhere and constantly striving to give free flights. Southwest aren't so focused on such an aim.You are wrong, the whole point of on line check in is not having all relevant details, it is to catch out people who are unable, or forget to check in online, like people in a hotel without internet access.
Hmm, what's it like wearing that tinfoil hat?
Ryanair aren't trying to 'catch people out' - you know the score when you book the ticket. If you can't make arrangements to check in online somehow, then fly a carrier which doesn't have such policies. It's really not rocket science - if you pay the extra for BA/etc, then you can check in at the airport and so on. But if you want the low fares that Ryanair offer, then you accept that they severely punish people who cannot follow simple instructions.
As for those that forget - they better improve their memory, because Ryanair will abolish airport check-in full stop before long.If it was to have all the relevant information they would not allow checking in so far in advance, in fact I think this actually does them more harm than good. So I can checkin up to 15 days in advance and then something comes up and I don't go, with flights at £1 how many people do you think just dump flights and not bother, loads is my guess, so they have passengers checked in that have no intention of flying and they won't be aware of it till they give out final calls at departure, possibly delaying flights and lost opportunity of reselling seats.
BTW where does this spare PC come from
Delaying flights? Ryanair won't hold back a flight for some idiot lost in duty free.
I doubt Ryanair are particularly bothered about someone not turning up for their 1 pound flight. They'll get to keep the fare and won't have to transport the weight - so it's a win-win situation for them.
Incidentally, you may notice that many airports are starting to scan boarding passes. I'd be willing to bet that Ryanair have access to that information - so why would they bother to hold back a flight for someone who didn't access security?
As for the spare computer - if you're not capable of finding someone else that uses a computer, then you shouldn't fly Ryanair and should fly overpriced legacy carriers instead.
Ryanair do a great job of taking a lot of money off stupid people, long may it continue From Poland...with love.
They are (they're) sitting on the floor.
Their books are lying on the floor.
The books are sitting just there on the floor.0 -
Crikey, another thing I have to make sure of if I book with them, having a backup PC. That's OK mate, I will leave them to you. They don't fly anywhere I want to go to anyway, and if they did I would choose Easyjet over them any day, even if they were more expensive. My conscience just won't let me fly with a guy who is on record as saying he hopes all the other low cost airlines go to the wall and thousands of people lose thier jobs.PolishBigSpender wrote: »As for the spare computer - if you're not capable of finding someone else that uses a computer, then you shouldn't fly Ryanair and should fly overpriced legacy carriers instead.The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.0 -
Crikey, another thing I have to make sure of if I book with them, having a backup PC. That's OK mate, I will leave them to you. They don't fly anywhere I want to go to anyway, and if they did I would choose Easyjet over them any day, even if they were more expensive. My conscience just won't let me fly with a guy who is on record as saying he hopes all the other low cost airlines go to the wall and thousands of people lose thier jobs.
The only difference between him and Richard Branson, Stelios of Easyjet, Willie Walsh of BA among many many others is that O'Leary is on record as saying that. The others will want exactly the same thing.
BA for instance were very happy to use any means possible to try and kill off Virgin Atlantic. Aer Lingus have used the Irish airport situation to try and drive Ryanair out.
If you really think that the majority of business heads want their competition to survive, then you're very sadly deluded.From Poland...with love.
They are (they're) sitting on the floor.
Their books are lying on the floor.
The books are sitting just there on the floor.0 -
My printer hates me going on holiday-it sulks and refuses to print anything the day before I fly
Solutions -pop round to a mates house and use theirs, do it from work (that one doesn't work for me I work from home) or pop to the local libary who give free access to both members and visitors and charge 10p a sheet to print.
As check in starts 24 hours ahead there's usually time to find an alternative-most people who get stung for the £40 get charged because they haven't realized the charge exists as they didn't read the confirmation paperwork.
(PS post directly above reported-these holiday companies must think we're silly)I Would Rather Climb A Mountain Than Crawl Into A Hole
MSE Florida wedding .....no problem0
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