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One Day Travelcards are they One Journey Travelcards?

DCodd
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Have searched forums but haven't seen a thread about this.

After reading about a fellow MSEer getting a fine on DLR it brought to mind something that happened to me a couple of weeks ago.

I rarely travel on the train/tube but had to go to London for a work thing last month. I bought a One Day Travelcard from Epsom and went to Waterloo then caught the tube to Campden, did what I needed to do and then returned to Epsom. At the barrier I popped in my travelcard and it took it!! It was valid for travel till midnight so why did it take it?

Are these just really a One Journey Travelcard?????
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  • dzug1
    dzug1 Posts: 13,535 Forumite
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    Epsom is outside zone 6. The travelcard is valid for one journey into the zones, unlimited travel there, and one journey back. So once you got back to Epsom its validity was complete.

    So - outside the zones yes they are a one-journey travel card
  • MJAllen88
    MJAllen88 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Correct :).

    I think you will find on the ticket, it says 'One Day Travelcard', then under 'Route' it says 'ZONE123456'

    This means that you can travel freely until the tube/trains within the 'oyster' zones close (about 2am) but as soon as you travel out, it turns back into a return ticket because otherwise you could probably travel freely around the south east, making use of every stop before Epsom haha.

    Its a confusing one but it does only apply to the Tube zones :)
  • One Day Travelcards.

    Station A is outside the Travelcard Zone, so the ticket allows you to travel to the zones indicated on your ticket and back.
    You then travel back to Station A, your ticket then becomes just an 'in boundary' travelcard.
    In order to travel back to the travelcard area you must buy a ticket to the boundary zone station.


    In-Boundary Travelcard.
    These are travelcards issued by stations inside the travelcard area. So your ticket is an unlimited travel ticket and is valid till 02:59 the following day. But you cannot go to a station outside the zones printed on your ticket.
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  • KeithP
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    In order to travel back to the travelcard area you must buy a ticket to the boundary zone station.
    You seem to be implying that if the OP returned to the travelcard zone then they could continue to travel within the zone until 02:59 the next day.
    But, but, but... the OP's ticket was swallowed upon return to Epsom (quite rightly IMHO).
  • surreysaver
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    A One Day Travelcard is valid until 04:00 the next day. Once you leave zone 6, and return to you original station, the journey has been completed. However, you can retain the ticket to use on TfL buses outside the zones. So the gates at Epsom should not be retaining the ticket, as it is valid to use on red buses in Epsom.
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  • I was not too sure on the expiry time, I was always told 02:59 but 03:59 sounds okay.

    You can always request to keep the ticket, but be warned it will be stamped in such a way to make it so the barriers will not accept it.

    Now I do agree with the barriers keeping the ticket as it prevents people throwing them on the floor and some other person picking it up and trying to re-use it.
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  • surreysaver
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    I was not too sure on the expiry time, I was always told 02:59 but 03:59 sounds okay.

    You can always request to keep the ticket, but be warned it will be stamped in such a way to make it so the barriers will not accept it.

    Now I do agree with the barriers keeping the ticket as it prevents people throwing them on the floor and some other person picking it up and trying to re-use it.

    There ought to be signs telling you not to put it in the barriers if you intend to carry on using as per the conditions. Starting a journey before 04:00 the next morning is the LT rules - a travelcard is obviously controlled by LT, so their rules override the usual British Rail ones that say a ticket is valid until 02:30 (or is it 02:59 now?).
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  • DCodd
    DCodd Posts: 8,187 Forumite
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    Thanks for all the info people.

    So does this mean I can buy a One Day travel card from Epsom go to London Come back to Sutton and catch the bus to Epsom and keep my card to use to go back to London for a night out???

    Just for information purposes, when I got got back to Epsom at about 2.00pm there was no one on the gate so I had no choice but to use the barriers.
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  • surreysaver
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    DCodd wrote: »
    So does this mean I can buy a One Day travel card from Epsom go to London Come back to Sutton and catch the bus to Epsom and keep my card to use to go back to London for a night out???

    Just for information purposes, when I got got back to Epsom at about 2.00pm there was no one on the gate so I had no choice but to use the barriers.

    The barriers should be open if they're not staffed - health and safety. And yes, you can use your travelcard to go back into London, as long as you use the bus again to get back within the zones - you've already used it on the train in that direction, so wouldn't be valid for another trip.
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  • DCodd
    DCodd Posts: 8,187 Forumite
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    The barriers should be open if they're not staffed - health and safety.


    Naughty Naughty then!!!!
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