New to new deal

barnaby-bear

foshizzle wrote: »

so basically they think your a thick !!!! that cant read or write on the dole great i'm looking forward to that. Not all people on the dole are the stereotypical people i.e. sponger/chav like they see everyday i genuinely want to get off it as soon as possibleand get a job. Thanks for the advice though much appreciated

But a lot of the people you don't fall into that catagory have the skills to find a job on their own so the more intense services have to be targetted as those with genuine skill obstacles. Trouble is when jobs are scarse more of those skilled who normally could find a job on their own can't so end up plonked with those nearer the unemployable end of the scale.

Widelats

Horace wrote: »

A work trial can be beneficial as it gives you more relevant experience - a work trial usually lasts for 15 days during which you will get your JSA plus additional money for travelling and towards lunch. If you do well, enjoy the work and like the employer then you come off work trial and work for them - employers tend not to offer work trials if they have no vacancies available.

New Deal will be changing from October anyway and will then be called Jobseekers Regime which sounds worse and makes it sound like a boot camp.

I know it is difficult but you need to keep an open mind and have a positive attitude, show that you are interested because if you show negativity then you are not likely to get anywhere fast.

Please don't see this as a dig at you as it is constructive advice which is what people on here are trying to give you as a way of improving your chances of getting a job. As others have said you could always do some voluntary work in a charity shop even for a couple of hours a day - its not ideal but at least it gives you some recent work experience which will look good on your CV.

Good luck.

Charity shops refuse to give any references at the end of your time, lots of women were coming back to new deal centres complaining, one woman on the centre i was in had a sony ericsson phone with a voice recorder she secretly recorded a manager calling herand her friend dummies "dumb and dumber there look" encouraging the staff who worked at the placement to do the same. They tried to get her benefits stopped as she complained that there was bullying and refused to go back, the manager said "I dont know why she left it was her choice" until the recorded evidence was shown, they were in the process of stopping her benefits and she said she will sue their whole business if she got her money stopped as well as the jobcentre and new deal staff, they then allowed her claim.

See, it can be a good oportunity if the workplace is a good workplace i agree, it can be a freakin' nightmare if there is bad managers and staff.

Do you know anything more about the new new deal thing? I would love a course and placement it if is good and what i want to do.

Oldernotwiser

Widelats wrote: »

if your refering to me there about not wanting a job your wrong, your not clever at all as your name suggests, the people they were threatening with benefit loss were teenagers.

Wish you snobby people would not assume, coz when you assume you make a A S S of U and M E. ASSUME.

I don't think you need any help to make an a ss of yourself!

Oldernotwiser

Widelats wrote: »

Charity shops refuse to give any references at the end of your time, lots of women were coming back to new deal centres complaining, one woman on the centre i was in had a sony ericsson phone with a voice recorder she secretly recorded a manager calling herand her friend dummies "dumb and dumber there look" .

No employer has to give a reference if the worker doesn't deserve one, as seems to be the case in your example.

Widelats

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

No employer has to give a reference if the worker doesn't deserve one, as seems to be the case in your example.

Ive never worked in a charity shop ... stop assuming LOL

Widelats

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I don't think you need any help to make an a ss of yourself!

No, i don't, not with A S S U M E R S like you on my case LOL :rotfl:

Oldernotwiser

Widelats wrote: »

Ive never worked in a charity shop ... stop assuming LOL

My comment has nothing to do with working in charity shops. NO employer has to give a reference and most will not do so for someone who hasn't performed appropriately.

seven-day-weekend

wishface wrote: »

we are quietly moving into a position where employers will get staff they don't actually have to pay. If there are jobs then employ people, if there aren't then pay the people who subsequently can't get work benefits and don't harass them. I have no idea what you mean by 'better than nothing'; are you seriously suggesting that everyone who doesn't have a 'proper job' is literally sitting still like some statute?

No, I meant he was getting some recent experience to put on his CV if he didn't get the job. The work trial was only for two weeks! This has got to be better than NOT getting the experience.

I do know some employers who have just used the unemployed as free labour; this of course I don't agree with, but all employers are not like that and there is no point in throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

seven-day-weekend

Widelats wrote: »

Do you know anything more about the new new deal thing? I would love a course and placement it if is good and what i want to do.

http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/stellent/groups/jcp/documents/sitestudio/dev_015303.pdf

mr.brightside87

I am now on my second time round on new deal. It is explaine din another post in the "Faking Depression" thread. The first time, I got a lot out of it. This time, I feel as though it wont be as beneficial to me at all. I will just be doing what I have already done. Last time I got a Food Hygeine Qualification out of it. This time, what can I get that will be of use to me. I'm a chef by trade (hence why I can't work... Knives and depression don't mix!!!) so what else is there I can get that doesn't mean me going to college. I told my advisor at the job centre this and all she said was "it is mandatory" to which I replied that if they set me up with a work trial, I would gladly go on that. Obviously not in a kitchen though. I got fed some b.s about losing my money.

It took me ages to come out of my shell last time. This time, I am in a worse state and will be on my own. Not looking forward to starting tomorrow...