New to new deal

robpw2

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I assumed it was because he had demonstrated to them what a good worker he was, whereas they can't tell that from a CV.

Not bothered anyway, he got, and still has, a job.

i would agree with you !

Oldernotwiser

foshizzle wrote: »

Hello, i've recently recieved a letter that i will be moved onto new deal and following that i will have a interview and was just wondering what will the interview be about. And can someone summarize what is new deal and can it really help you in finding a job or is it a waste of time?

Thanks for the help and advice much appreciated

New Deal can be very helpful if you go into it with a positive attitude and are prepared to take what you can from it. If you resent it and treat it as a punishment, you're unlikely to benefit.

I haven't been involved for some time but there used to be a gateway period of a few weeks where you're offered intensive help with jobseeking techniques, rewriting your CV etc, followed by a work placement, community placement or training.

As you have no choice about doing it, you might as well enter into it with an open mind and take what you can from the experience. I know many people who have got jobs from New Deal (and also many who haven't) and those were all people who treated the experience positively.

The negative advice you've had on here has been from at least one person who had no intention of ever getting a job and resented the fact that s/he was being asked to do something for his/her benefit money!

Edit; I think that if someone has been on New Deal four times that tells you all you need to know about their attitude to work!

seven-day-weekend

I agree, approach it positively and you may just get some benefit out of it.

Please keep us posted!

seven-day-weekend

wishface wrote: »

doesn't it make you wonder why they wouldn't hire him normally, yet through this work trial scheme (which usually benefits employers more than the unemployed) a job then appears?

No it doesn't actually, I don't thin it's at all unreasonable that they wanted to see if he could do the job. He still got his Jobseekers' Allowance whilst doing the work trial. Better than sitting around doing nothing imho.

wishface

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

The negative advice you've had on here has been from at least one person who had no intention of ever getting a job and resented the fact that s/he was being asked to do something for his/her benefit money!

Edit; I think that if someone has been on New Deal four times that tells you all you need to know about their attitude to work!

:rolleyes:

wishface

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

No it doesn't actually, I don't thin it's at all unreasonable that they wanted to see if he could do the job. He still got his Jobseekers' Allowance whilst doing the work trial. Better than sitting around doing nothing imho.

we are quietly moving into a position where employers will get staff they don't actually have to pay. If there are jobs then employ people, if there aren't then pay the people who subsequently can't get work benefits and don't harass them. I have no idea what you mean by 'better than nothing'; are you seriously suggesting that everyone who doesn't have a 'proper job' is literally sitting still like some statute?

Oldernotwiser

wishface wrote: »

we are quietly moving into a position where employers will get staff they don't actually have to pay. If there are jobs then employ people, if there aren't then pay the people who subsequently can't get work benefits and don't harass them. I have no idea what you mean by 'better than nothing'; are you seriously suggesting that everyone who doesn't have a 'proper job' is literally sitting still like some statute?

I don't like employees being exploited either but in this position you just have to get something positive from the situation. Any kind of work trial or even voluntary work is going to look better on your CV than doing nothing; it should enable to keep your skills up to date or aquire new ones as well as giving you a more current reference.

Widelats

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

New Deal can be very helpful if you go into it with a positive attitude and are prepared to take what you can from it. If you resent it and treat it as a punishment, you're unlikely to benefit.

I haven't been involved for some time but there used to be a gateway period of a few weeks where you're offered intensive help with jobseeking techniques, rewriting your CV etc, followed by a work placement, community placement or training.

As you have no choice about doing it, you might as well enter into it with an open mind and take what you can from the experience. I know many people who have got jobs from New Deal (and also many who haven't) and those were all people who treated the experience positively.

The negative advice you've had on here has been from at least one person who had no intention of ever getting a job and resented the fact that s/he was being asked to do something for his/her benefit money!

Edit; I think that if someone has been on New Deal four times that tells you all you need to know about their attitude to work!

if your refering to me there about not wanting a job your wrong, your not clever at all as your name suggests, the people they were threatening with benefit loss were teenagers.

Wish you snobby people would not assume, coz when you assume you make a A S S of U and M E. ASSUME.

Widelats

wishface wrote: »

it's a gravy train for the private enterprise DWp cronies. Are they so far removed from the people they abuse in the course of their 'work'? After all they too are funded by the state - that is, the taxpaying Daily Mail reader!

Exactly, they stop teenagers money and are surprised when they turn to crime for food. If only they thought things through before slamming down their power rules.

Horace

A work trial can be beneficial as it gives you more relevant experience - a work trial usually lasts for 15 days during which you will get your JSA plus additional money for travelling and towards lunch. If you do well, enjoy the work and like the employer then you come off work trial and work for them - employers tend not to offer work trials if they have no vacancies available.

New Deal will be changing from October anyway and will then be called Jobseekers Regime which sounds worse and makes it sound like a boot camp.

I know it is difficult but you need to keep an open mind and have a positive attitude, show that you are interested because if you show negativity then you are not likely to get anywhere fast.

Please don't see this as a dig at you as it is constructive advice which is what people on here are trying to give you as a way of improving your chances of getting a job. As others have said you could always do some voluntary work in a charity shop even for a couple of hours a day - its not ideal but at least it gives you some recent work experience which will look good on your CV.

Good luck.