Please go petition

Graham_Devon

So, as todays, and this threads, expenses reform vote was u-turned just a couple of hours before they went to vote, what's the score going to be now with these second home allowances?

Browns got a nice headline on the BBC news, basically stating the government has won the votes, but the rest of the papers, including the guardian, are calling it humiliating.

Rochdale_Pioneers

Graham_Devon wrote: »

So, as todays, and this threads, expenses reform vote was u-turned just a couple of hours before they went to vote, what's the score going to be now with these second home allowances?

Browns got a nice headline on the BBC news, basically stating the government has won the votes, but the rest of the papers, including the guardian, are calling it humiliating.

And they are right.

What I don't understand though is how last week the Tories were screaming for something to be done now about expenses - how Brown was a coward to wait for the committee. And then today threatened to whip their MPs to vote for an amendment parking the whole issue until the committee reports.

savemoney

Indeed

There is an old saying

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't

I wouldn't trust Cameron with a 20ft bargepole, nor any Tory for that matter

Dan: wrote: »

My biggest fear is who his replacement will be.

baby_boomer

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Don't know where this thread keeps going!

It gets put it the trash where it belongs.

Andy_L wrote: »

Just like Major, Douglas-Home, McMillan, Eden, Churchill & Chamberlain then

At least 3 of the above actually won general elections.

Perhaps Gordon will stay on as leader of the Labour Party in the hope that he might emulate them! Here's hoping .

dervish

Andy_L wrote: »

Just like Major, Douglas-Home, McMillan, Eden, Churchill & Chamberlain then

and Jim Callaghan...

HOwever don't lump in the 30s Prime Ministers as that was during a time of National Government when the public basically saw the suspension of party politics- therefore a change in leader was not as significant as it was when Brown replaced Blair.

Masomnia

I might create a petition 'Make Harriet Harman PM', see how much support that gets since it's effectively asking the same thing.

dervish

Masomnia wrote: »

I might create a petition 'Make Harriet Harman PM', see how much support that gets since it's effectively asking the same thing.

An odious woman, who reeks of hypocrisy.
:mad:
I cannot forgive her for what she said and then did about her child's education.

bendix

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I take it then, Nick Robinson for the BBC is also, Kindergartonish?

Nick Robertson's job is to sensationalise. It attracts viewers.

People really need to think through the consequences of their actions. Sadly, in today's mind-numbingly assinine Britain, that seems beyond most people. It's the Sun / Daily Mirror effect.

bendix

dervish wrote: »

An odious woman, who reeks of hypocrisy.
:mad:
I cannot forgive her for what she said and then did about her child's education.

It's not often I agree with dervish. On this point, though, he is spot on.