Excessive Postage!!!

Jo_F

You can't add your Ebay and Paypal fees to the postage, why should your customer have to pay your fees for you? If you are selling, then the onus is on you to pay your fees, or incorporate them into the ITEM price, not the postage price.

cyril82

Jo_F wrote: »

You can't add your Ebay and Paypal fees to the postage, why should your customer have to pay your fees for you? If you are selling, then the onus is on you to pay your fees, or incorporate them into the ITEM price, not the postage price.

this is where buyers like youreself are totally missing the point.

in business all items have a cost to buy and a cost to sell. the seller wants to make a profit, that is what business is about.

therefore, no matter what you buy as a consumer, or where you buy it from, you ARE going to be paying the costs/fees incured by the seller in selling them to you.

So if you get the selller to drop his postage, it will only result in the in a rise in the asking price by an equal amount.

Why should the seller not make a profit?

Jo_F

I am a seller, I actually design and make jewellery, which i then sell, part of the price of the jewellery piece is the costs involved in making it, so that will include materials, a cost for my time and any other associated costs, and then using those figures, the price charged for the item can be worked out. All costs are counted, including website fees, gas used for the baked items etc etc. What I won't do is over charge on the postage to claim costs back from the item.

I actually also dispatch the items from my website postage free (unless it's going international).

the point I was making, is that any costs should be costed/charged against the actual item, and not over inflating the postage costs, yes this make the item a little more expensive, but I have to say that if I saw an item being sold at an inflated postage cost, then that supplier would not get my business.

Everyone knows that excessive postal charges on Ebay are the sellers' way of getting round the Ebay fees. If I was faced with an item of £1 with a delivery/postage charge of £9 against an identical item of £9 with a postage cost of £1, I would go for the 2nd item, as I would guess that the actual costs (price to buy it, overheads etc) are factored into the price being charged for the item and therefore the price of the item is far more realistic.

mluton

I like to make money on postage and ensure its going to cover all the postage cost, as above its clearly stated prior to bidding.

cyberbob

mluton wrote: »

I like to make money on postage

which is against ebay rules

As a seller and a buyer the people who try to add profit to the postage are just trying to avoid the ebay fees.

Your profit and fees should be added to your starting prices. Simple as that. Its never stopped me or thousands of others making a good profit.

mluton

Its there to be read prior to bidding, no harm really.

cyril82

cyberbob wrote: »

which is against ebay rules

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of course it's against ebay rules as they want sellers to factor it into the sale price so they can make more fees, you don't think it's because they care how much people pay to have things posted do you? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

And insisting that fees are factored into the sale price does not benifit the buyer as the seller has to add the charges, plus the charges they will be charged on the amount they added to the price for charges if you can work that one out :think:

sequence

Buyers don't seem to realize that they have to pay more if the fees aren't recovered in the postage they have to pay more for the item. I used to make my fees on the postage but people complained about it so now they have to pay 10% more overall. Silly little hitlers trying to enforce eBays own rules :rolleyes:

StaffsSW

Any seller that relies on making profit, or even just covering selling costs, through P&P has a seriously flawed business model, and should consider if eBay, or even any online selling, is suitable for them.

Luckily these types of sellers never last too long to pose a serious competitive trading threat, but they certainly do pi55 off plenty of potential customers along the way.

cyril82

stevew8975 wrote: »

Any seller that relies on making profit, or even just covering selling costs, through P&P has a seriously flawed business model, and should consider if eBay, or even any online selling, is suitable for them.

Luckily these types of sellers never last too long to pose a serious competitive trading threat, but they certainly do pi55 off plenty of potential customers along the way.

i never had to charge my fees in the postage to make a profit, i was just able to do the maths that adding them to the sale price would mean i would have to add at least an extra 10% to my items sale price meaning my buyers would be paying more, as i said earlier i was selling items at £80 including a £20 postage fee, that could not be bought in shops for less than £160 so represented a great value purchase, yet still some complained, just because the postage was so high, but if i put my costs into the sale price with free postage they would have been happy, even though they would have paid at least another £8 in total.......i think some people just struggle with simple maths.