Jobs going abroad

Conrad

The mods here ticked me off for stating the folliwng some time ago;

This forum is dedicated to the bargain cult. Low price = cheap work force.

As I've pointed out inumerable times, we must accept the hunger for value has a cost.

I personaly have a built in distain for the bargain hunter - most often you find they are vociferous when it comes to thier own wage settlement - oh the irony.

Conrad

ScoobyStew wrote: »

its up to our government to keep these businesses interested and make it worthwhile for them to stay here and keep our jobs.

And it's up to us to support British workers, not Chinese - we have a choice.
This minds me of those that decry the village pub / post office closure, yet did not support the same - Brits are so odd

Generali

adr0ck wrote: »

gen you seem to have forgotton that as well as lots of jobs going abroad

so have you!!!!!!!!!!!!

I outsourced myself :-)

Conrad wrote: »

The mods here ticked me off for stating the folliwng some time ago;

This forum is dedicated to the bargain cult. Low price = cheap work force.

As I've pointed out inumerable times, we must accept the hunger for value has a cost.

I personaly have a built in distain for the bargain hunter - most often you find they are vociferous when it comes to thier own wage settlement - oh the irony.

It's true. People who are well paid by British standards for the most part can't produce cheap goods (unless they are highly productive of course).

If you buy cheap imported goods and lose your job to someone in a cheaper country, then what was sauce for the goose has become sauce for the gander.

One of the things that seems to have gone unnoticed during this recession so far is that banks (annecdotally at least, talking to former colleagues) are taking the opportunity to offshore a lot more work, epsecially non-client facing, processing jobs. Don't think that all of that is just data entry; a lot is highly specialised, highly skilled, highly paid work. A mate's department is being sent to India from Sydney. The eight of them must earn the best part of a million Aussie dollars between them including perks and pension.

Gorgeous_George

Generali wrote: »

PS lots of jobs in my industry, banking, have gone abroad (India, Ireland and Liverpool mostly)

Is Liverpool in Wales.

I hope so.

I usually buy Toshiba - not because of any British links just that I like their stuff. I will consider buying stuff made by others now that they are closing their British factory.

We need a drive to buy British. If it is more expensive so be it - at least buying less stuff will be more environmentally friendly (buying less because we cannot afford to buy as much).

On the green subject, ,my LCD TV was bought for enviromental reasons. When I ditch it at the the end of its life it will take up less landfill than the old style CRT TV. LED TVs are thinner still. :whistle:

GG

baileysbattlebus

ScoobyStew wrote: »

Can't forget that alot of these companies are not British in the first place, its up to our government to keep these businesses interested and make it worthwhile for them to stay here and keep our jobs.

I agree - but I do feel we should make it more difficult than it is for them to up sticks and go. Especially profitable ones and there are plenty of them.

Generali

baileysbattlebus wrote: »

I agree - but I do feel we should make it more difficult than it is for them to up sticks and go. Especially profitable ones and there are plenty of them.

One reason companies are attracted to the UK is that they can close or shrink if needs be. You stop them from doing that and few companies will open in the UK.

Conrad

Generali wrote: »

If you buy cheap imported goods and lose your job to someone in a cheaper country, then what was sauce for the goose has become sauce for the gander.

Many threads on rising unemployment over the last few years on housepricecrash, and time and again I asked how the authors squared thier distain for UK job losses with thier fondness for a bargain.

Not once did I get a reply - indeed my pulling at the scab cause great irritation.

I'm honst enough to admit my buying habits add to UK job losses, yet others seem to want to pass the buch to Government:T

Conrad

baileysbattlebus wrote: »

I agree - but I do feel we should make it more difficult than it is for them to up sticks and go. Especially profitable ones and there are plenty of them.

So stop buying bargains then.

Generali

Conrad wrote: »

Many threads on rising unemployment over the last few years on housepricecrash, and time and again I asked how the authors squared thier distain for UK job losses with thier fondness for a bargain.

Not once did I get a reply - indeed my pulling at the scab cause great irritation.

I'm honst enough to admit my buying habits add to UK job losses, yet others seem to want to pass the buch to Government:T

My belief is that to some extent at least you can have it both ways - by buying a cheap shirt made in India I can afford a nice British suit and when in the UK I did, to some extent at least, try to buy things made in the UK, most usually when the British version was more expensive but a lot better. Meat springs to mind - about 90% of the meat I ate when I lived in Kent was from Kent or Surrey. When I lived in London, probably 100% of the meat I ate was British.

bendix

Conrad wrote: »

And it's up to us to support British workers, not Chinese - we have a choice.
This minds me of those that decry the village pub / post office closure, yet did not support the same - Brits are so odd

You're talking in platitudes. Now let's get back to the real world.

Why should companies not move to more economically viable countries? In the UK we have two politico-socioeconomic trends which make such relocations more and more likely.

On the political front we have a government which does its damndest to make setting up in business full of red tape, which constructs hyper complicated tax structures which disentivise both companies and workers from doing well.

On the socio-economic front you have a workforce that demands high wages and which seems to think a low-skilled job should give you an upper middle class lifestyle.

no wonder multinationals are leaving - I would to, in the bid to keep my products competitive.

Besides, as Dervish would say, most of those low-payinig jobs in UK factories are being done by immigrants anyway . . . what he doesnt say is that the UK workers are sitting on their fat chuffs at home, eating pizza, claiming incapacity benefit and watching Richard and bloody Judy.