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Advice on Teeth Whitening Discussion Thread

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  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    I understand how businesses selling illegal whitening training, products and the proceedure want to protect their income but I cannot understand how anyone can say they are protecting the public by campaigning for any old person off the street to put chemicals inside a persons body that are strong enough to change the colour of teeth.

    I cannot understand why anyone would want to whiten teeth when the specialists in oral health have said it is not safe to do it if you don't know what you are doing.

    I cannot understand that if a dental nurse with two years full time training, or a dental therapist with a three year oral science degree cannot carry out dental whitening unless a dentist has prescribed it, anyone can argue that a beautician after a three hour sales patter and demo is safe to do so.
  • Teethwhiteninguk
    Teethwhiteninguk Posts: 110 Forumite
    edited 30 May 2013 at 6:32PM
    welshdent wrote: »
    Oh I love that. Arrogant because we are stating facts. Brilliant.

    What facts are they? Have you got a chrystal ball in your surgery? Do you know the outcome of the appeal and the EU law infringement case? Embarrassing!
  • Teethwhiteninguk
    Teethwhiteninguk Posts: 110 Forumite
    edited 30 May 2013 at 6:30PM
    brook2jack wrote: »
    I understand how businesses selling illegal whitening training, products and the proceedure want to protect their income but I cannot understand how anyone can say they are protecting the public by campaigning for any old person off the street to put chemicals inside a persons body that are strong enough to change the colour of teeth.

    I cannot understand why anyone would want to whiten teeth when the specialists in oral health have said it is not safe to do it if you don't know what you are doing.

    I cannot understand that if a dental nurse with two years full time training, or a dental therapist with a three year oral science degree cannot carry out dental whitening unless a dentist has prescribed it, anyone can argue that a beautician after a three hour sales patter and demo is safe to do so.

    I do not understand the relevance to the Jamous case? All her customers were delighted!

    Are you prepared to tell the high street chemists or the EU of your assertions?
  • welshdent
    welshdent Posts: 2,000 Forumite
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    What facts are they? Have you got a chrystal ball in your surgery? Do you know the outcome of the appeal and the EU law infringement case?


    Has there been an original case where the lady in question was acquited? yes or no?

    Was there an appeal where the high court found in favour of the GDC? yes or no?

    They are FACTS. They happened.
  • Teethwhiteninguk
    Teethwhiteninguk Posts: 110 Forumite
    edited 30 May 2013 at 6:38PM
    welshdent wrote: »
    Has there been an original case where the lady in question was acquited? yes or no?

    Was there an appeal where the high court found in favour of the GDC? yes or no?

    They are FACTS. They happened.

    The appeal case has not been heard yet. The EU law infringement has not ended.

    A case happened but has not been concluded and no sentence has been passed.

    Until this has occurred neither you or I can comment further.
  • welshdent
    welshdent Posts: 2,000 Forumite
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    so thats a yes to both questions :)

    <<waiting for teethwhiteninguk to insist on having the last word no matter what it is>>
  • welshdent wrote: »
    so thats a yes to both questions :)

    <<waiting for teethwhiteninguk to insist on having the last word no matter what it is>>

    There is no resolution yet.
  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    Click on the following photographs which are taken from illegal whiteners websites showing their success stories. The poor people were initially delighted enough to give permission for their photos. There is picture after picture of gum burns (white on the gums) untreated gum disease and tooth disease all of which will be made worse by this treatment, except the illegal whiteners are ignorant of what an unhealthy mouth looks like and the folks who have had it done won't be aware until it's too late https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=599965173363820&set=a.598720986821572.150319.592837014076636&type=1&theater

    press the next button for the whole terrible gallery.
  • welshdent
    welshdent Posts: 2,000 Forumite
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    chickens .... equally as pointless but could it be a last word?!
  • Teethwhiteninguk
    Teethwhiteninguk Posts: 110 Forumite
    edited 7 June 2013 at 4:31PM
    brook2jack wrote: »
    Click on the following photographs which are taken from illegal whiteners websites showing their success stories. The poor people were initially delighted enough to give permission for their photos. There is picture after picture of gum burns (white on the gums) untreated gum disease and tooth disease all of which will be made worse by this treatment, except the illegal whiteners are ignorant of what an unhealthy mouth looks like and the folks who have had it done won't be aware until it's too late https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=599965173363820&set=a.598720986821572.150319.592837014076636&type=1&theater

    Terrible, but still not relevant to the Jamous case or legal operators.

    Video of Dentist horror, see the man's poor lips which are 5 x the size with 25% peroxide.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR23mHCHsSc
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