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Incorrect ISA interest.

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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
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    I have sent a secure message to Nationwide about exactly this - I have a 2-year fixed term ISA paying 6.15% (yay!), started in Dec 07. It pays interest on 31 March, annually, and on the maturity date.

    So, original deposit £14,338.23
    Interest to 31 Mar 08 £260.32 (didn't bother to check this - new balance £14,598.55)
    Interest to 31 Mar 09 £895.93 - should be £897.81 by my calculator

    Only pennies different, but MY pennies. I was advised ISA replies were taking approximately 14 working days, on 1 April. I make it 15 working days since then, so will let you know when they reply.

    Interesting.

    My ISA balance on 31 Mar 08 was £28,287.00 now according to my calculator the interest on that sum at 6.15% is £1739.65. I have been credited with £1,736.06 - so a difference of £3.59 in NW's favour.

    Your difference on a balance just over half my total is £1.88.

    So again using my calculator it would appear that we have been 'short changed' in exactly the same way i.e. paid 6.137%
  • rb10
    rb10 Posts: 6,334 Forumite
    I expect that they will be rounding - or possibly truncating - the daily interest rate or amount calculations. It would be interesting to know exactly where they round or truncate though.
  • BruceyBonus
    BruceyBonus Posts: 1,143 Forumite
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    This old version of the Nationwide Wikipedia page seems to explain how NW calculate the interest, but I still can't reach the figures NW actually credit
    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nationwide_Building_Society&oldid=206557501#Interest_Calculations
  • BruceyBonus
    BruceyBonus Posts: 1,143 Forumite
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    Cardew wrote: »
    Interesting.

    My ISA balance on 31 Mar 08 was £28,287.00 now according to my calculator the interest on that sum at 6.15% is £1739.65. I have been credited with £1,736.06 - so a difference of £3.59 in NW's favour.

    Your difference on a balance just over half my total is £1.88.

    So again using my calculator it would appear that we have been 'short changed' in exactly the same way i.e. paid 6.137%
    I managed to get to £1736.06 interest, based on being paid for 364.247 days of a 365 day year. :confused:
  • rb10
    rb10 Posts: 6,334 Forumite
    This old version of the Nationwide Wikipedia page seems to explain how NW calculate the interest, but I still can't reach the figures NW actually credit
    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nationwide_Building_Society&oldid=206557501#Interest_Calculations

    A very interesting link ... but it doesn't really help that much. I can get it fairly close to the actual figure if you assume that every day you receive about 1/365.75th of the annual rate, and then truncate the annual rate & daily amount accrued. We want whoever wrote that wikipedia page to come on here...!
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
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    I and my family have had some 1 year fixed rate bonds(not ISA) with NW and all of them have paid exactly the correct amount of interest when they matured - to within 1p.
  • Cardew wrote: »
    I and my family have had some 1 year fixed rate bonds(not ISA) with NW and all of them have paid exactly the correct amount of interest when they matured - to within 1p.

    I have a £1,000 1-year e-bond maturing tomorrow, at a rate of 6.6% gross, 5.28% net. By my reckoning, that should be £52.80 net interest payable tomorrow. I'll let you know...
    Mortgage Free thanks to ill-health retirement
  • savetilibleed
    savetilibleed Posts: 1,363 Forumite
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    Northern Rock have downloadable leaflet "Your interest...and how we work it out", if that is any help to anyone.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    I managed to get to £1736.06 interest, based on being paid for 364.247 days of a 365 day year. :confused:

    Thanks, however we really shouldn't have to work out how they have paid less interest than advertised.

    £10000 invested for exactly one year at 6% should pay exactly £600 and we shouldn't have to be finding reasons why they have only paid £598!!
  • I have a £1,000 1-year e-bond maturing tomorrow, at a rate of 6.6% gross, 5.28% net. By my reckoning, that should be £52.80 net interest payable tomorrow. I'll let you know...

    Looks like more Nationwide tricks - they've credited £65.87 gross, £52.70 net. Where's my other 13p gross, 10p net?! That's 364.72 days' interest, not 365.
    Mortgage Free thanks to ill-health retirement
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