How many Days can someone stop?

BLUEWKD

dmg24 wrote: »

Is the few days every week, and where does he sleep when he stays? (You don't have to answer that, it is more just an idea of what you may be asked!)

As others have said, there are so many variables that would be considered, they basically try to build up a picture of your life with the person (if there is one!). My feeling is that you have nothing to worry about, but no one can really tell for sure without knowing all the details of your life.

Sorry dmg, but you'll have to wait for the book to come out, too long for here Seriously though, heard about the hassle you can get and don't need any more at the moment!! Not a relationship but very good friends. And he says the sofa is very comfortable (sounds like it from the snoring anyway).

Pepzofio

BLUEWKD wrote: »

not trying to circumvent rules or get round them, just trying to clarify them. If it is a case of classed as living with you if they stop a couple of nights then will say go back to your own place, but sometimes want company (get depressed a lot) but don't want it causing hassle. Both have trouble sleeping and like staying up late watching movies etc.
Sometimes people on here can be too quick to judge, when others are wanting genuine help. Thanks to all you who have genuinly given advice.

If you're not in a (sexual) relationship together, he maintains his own home, does not have any bills/credit agreements registered at your address, does not have post delivered there and only stays a few nights at a time and not on a regular/set basis then I'd say you're probably fine. But as DMG says, it's impossible to say for sure without knowing your full circumstances.

Poppy9

dmg24 wrote: »

I can't see where anybody has suggested circumventing the rules, the OP certainly hasn't.

Well I picked up a hint about where your mail goes and where you store your clothes.

dmg24 wrote:

My partner lives 100 miles away from me. He often works in my city. He is currently staying from Monday night to Friday morning. Are you saying that he lives with me? I can assure you he doesn't!

But if you are claiming single person benefits then the benefit agency may class you as living together. It doesn't really matter what I think about whether you are living together, it's what the benefit agency think. If you are not claiming single person benefits then it's of no consequence whether your or are not living together.

While there maybe plenty of reasons not to live with your partner or friend if you are claiming single person or sole adult benefits but are not geniunely living alone the whole time then you are being economical with the truth for financial gain. Is this fraud or just morally wrong?

Re the OP. I don't wish to offend you but you obviously feel you are on dodgy ground or someone has questioned you as you wouldn't be asking.

real1314

Poppy9 wrote: »

Well I picked up a hint about where your mail goes and where you store your clothes.

But if you are claiming single person benefits then the benefit agency may class you as living together. It doesn't really matter what I think about whether you are living together, it's what the benefit agency think. If you are not claiming single person benefits then it's of no consequence whether your or are not living together.

While there maybe plenty of reasons not to live with your partner or friend if you are claiming single person or sole adult benefits but are not geniunely living alone the whole time then you are being economical with the truth for financial gain. Is this fraud or just morally wrong?

Re the OP. I don't wish to offend you but you obviously feel you are on dodgy ground or someone has questioned you as you wouldn't be asking.

I'd agree with poppy on this, 2 days a week could be classed as living together, depending on the circumstances.
An oil rig worker who is away on a rig for 3 months would be living with his/her partner.
As would a member of the forces who is away for months on end.
Someone who stays away during the week for work purposes or to avoid commuting could certainly be deemed to be living with the person they stay with at weekends. e.g Jacqui Smith (who imho could well be prosectued for benefit fraud if she had made claims to benefits on the same basis as her claims for expenses. It's a certainty that any civil servant who claimed re-location expenses on the basis that she claimed her expenses would have been dismissed and possibly prosecuted. :mad:)

maliah

ERR!

I'm really woried now myself. I rang the tax credits and explained my situation to them , i split with my partner last october we have 1 ds but since then we still live in the same house, he as his own room with all his belonging's in it. His mail still gets sent here ofc as we joint own the house,!

am i commiting fraud? we both work but he just give's me £400 a month maintenance and i pay all the bills.

I asked the TC several times and they advised me to claim single? we only still live together as we have debts and he can't afford to rent on his own and still pay for our son? we can't sell the house cos of current climate and we are tied in with the mortgage.

I'm really worried now it was never my intention to claim money that wasn't intended for me. Tax credits are the only thing i claim and don't claim CTB or anything else.
If anyone can advise me thanks

traveller

you are living seperate lives-which is allowed to go on in the same household.So this would be why TC would have been o.k with that scenario.

maliah

Ah thank god Traveller!

was really worried then, thanks for clearing that up. I know what TC told me but as we all know many things go wrong with Tax credits.

God to know that i'm not breaking the law.

Thanks

real1314

maliah wrote: »

ERR!

I'm really woried now myself. I rang the tax credits and explained my situation to them , i split with my partner last october we have 1 ds but since then we still live in the same house, he as his own room with all his belonging's in it. His mail still gets sent here ofc as we joint own the house,!

am i commiting fraud? we both work but he just give's me £400 a month maintenance and i pay all the bills.

I asked the TC several times and they advised me to claim single? we only still live together as we have debts and he can't afford to rent on his own and still pay for our son? we can't sell the house cos of current climate and we are tied in with the mortgage.

I'm really worried now it was never my intention to claim money that wasn't intended for me. Tax credits are the only thing i claim and don't claim CTB or anything else.
If anyone can advise me thanks

I'll just make one nice clear point:-

If you tell them what you are doing, it can't be fraud.

They might decide they can't pay you, they might decide they can. They might have paid you in error. But if you told them the actual circumstances it cannot be fraud and you cannot be prosecuted.

Poppy9

real1314 wrote: »

I'll just make one nice clear point:-

If you tell them what you are doing, it can't be fraud.

They might decide they can't pay you, they might decide they can. They might have paid you in error. But if you told them the actual circumstances it cannot be fraud and you cannot be prosecuted.

I would put it in writing though as a phone call can be denied.

LizzieS_2

The biggest issue here is not how comfortable you are with your meanings/innocent intentions - it is what some-one ese may see, eg neighbour reports you and DWP do a discreet follow you around exercise - they will see regular overnight stays without actually seeing who sleeps where etc.

The moral is, no matter how innocent you are, if you have unhappy neighbours/family/friends you can still come unstuck.