Why was IMMMIGRATION ignored in the budget>?

dylansmum

Cleaver wrote: »

I don't really get this 'wide open' perception. We're open to all EU countries, because we're part of the EU. If you're from outside the EU, and therefore require a work permit, it's still very difficult to get a job, and therefore reside, in the UK. 99% of the jobs that attract a work permit do so because the country finds it hard to fill those roles with decent people at the present time. Or am I wrong?

No, you're right.

Topov_3

why is there such a large proportion of black and ethnic minorities in prison? all the bleeding heart liberals will tell youits apaling that so many are in prison and we should give them more benefits. i say that they are in prison because they comit crimes and they should be deported as soon as they are free. we waste so many resources on these people and they throw it back in our faces we should just give them a load of money when they arrive to sign a paper saing they wont come back and that they will go back home much cheaper than giving them all the benefits, having them cost us a fortune in crime and then have them given 3 meals a day in prison. there was a romany bloke who raped a woman deliberately so that he could stay in this country and join his brother in prison who told him how good it was in Uk prisons. he will serve his time and then live in a halfway house and get benefits and a pension until he dies. what a great country we live in.

brixham

Ok think I may be in trouble here. Will I be deported as my (many times) great grand father was an asylum seeker? He was a French Huguenot.

Don't want to live in France..........please don't make me go.

sporedude

Topov wrote: »

why is there such a large proportion of black and ethnic minorities in prison? all the bleeding heart liberals will tell youits apaling that so many are in prison and we should give them more benefits. i say that they are in prison because they comit crimes and they should be deported as soon as they are free. we waste so many resources on these people and they throw it back in our faces we should just give them a load of money when they arrive to sign a paper saing they wont come back and that they will go back home much cheaper than giving them all the benefits, having them cost us a fortune in crime and then have them given 3 meals a day in prison. there was a romany bloke who raped a woman deliberately so that he could stay in this country and join his brother in prison who told him how good it was in Uk prisons. he will serve his time and then live in a halfway house and get benefits and a pension until he dies. what a great country we live in.

Just because you are black does not mean you arent British. And usually when foreign criminals are released they are deported, So that Romanian gman will probably be sent back.

dervish

Topov wrote: »

why is there such a large proportion of black and ethnic minorities in prison? all the bleeding heart liberals will tell youits apaling that so many are in prison and we should give them more benefits. i say that they are in prison because they comit crimes and they should be deported as soon as they are free. we waste so many resources on these people and they throw it back in our faces we should just give them a load of money when they arrive to sign a paper saing they wont come back and that they will go back home much cheaper than giving them all the benefits, having them cost us a fortune in crime and then have them given 3 meals a day in prison. there was a romany bloke who raped a woman deliberately so that he could stay in this country and join his brother in prison who told him how good it was in Uk prisons. he will serve his time and then live in a halfway house and get benefits and a pension until he dies. what a great country we live in.

Dont believe anything this alter-ego of Blathering Dad has to say.

It is a made-up character spouting false views.

Cleaver

MiserlyMartin wrote: »

I think you are. The British public did not ask for a EU free for all immigration system. How much more wide open would you like?

I think an open working Europe is great to be honest. Allows all of use to use labour from all EU countries and the market decides the correct rate.

MiserlyMartin wrote: »

We were promised a vote on the EU constitution by Labour. Another broken promise. If the 'awful immigrant' jobs were not being taken by immigrants they could be done by all those UK born, bone idle benefit scroungers instead.

We have a Polish cleaner at our work. She's uber-reliable, pleasant, good at her job and overall a great employee. Why on earth would my organisation want to replace her with one of your 'bone idle benefit scroungers'? Quick answer is that we wouldn't.

MiserlyMartin wrote: »

Anyhow, just being a member of the EU is no excuse to have to have the borders so open and the benefits for asylum seekers so readily availble and generous.

What generous and readily available benefits? The vast majority of local governments don't allow any form of Income Support, Housing Benefit or Job Seekers Allowance to asylum seekers. If you pass a test, you get Asylum Support. To pass this test you must be able to prove you fleeing persecution, war or torture.

Apologies as I've missed something as I'm no expert, but which 'generous benefits' are you referring to?

chopperharris

jojo1964 wrote: »

Taken in context with the rest of the post, the obvious inferrence is that immigrants from previous generations worked harder, and longer hours, in menial jobs that the locals would not do, when to any with any memories of those generations would be able to testify that that was not the case, there might be some smattering of truth if it was compared to todays benefits generation, but no to past generations.

but it was and still is the case that immigrants filled jobs that no one else would do or for the pay offered.My early death irish great grand fathers are testimony to the worst jobs labouring.

I dont think the poster said harder and longer but hard and long , your reading what you want from the sentence.

The work ethic of every immigrant i have ever employed has always been more calories expired than that of anyone else on the payroll and job done to a higher standard.I can therefore say they worked harder and longer hours by my own experience of being a non immigrant and former manager the numbers proved it.

My biggest bug bear in management was those nationals that had to be told to work constantly rather than do nothing , other true workers didnt like them neither.The same ones always took sickies as extended holidays during the school holidays.I would have replaced two of them with one hard worker given the chance , immigrant or national , and gave them overtime instead only for the lazy staff to complain they never got any ot unless it was when it only suited them.

jojo1964

chopperharris wrote: »

but it was and still is the case that immigrants filled jobs that no one else would do or for the pay offered.My early death irish great grand fathers are testimony to the worst jobs labouring.

I dont think the poster said harder and longer but hard and long , your reading what you want from the sentence.

The work ethic of every immigrant i have ever employed has always been more calories expired than that of anyone else on the payroll and job done to a higher standard.I can therefore say they worked harder and longer hours by my own experience of being a non immigrant and former manager the numbers proved it.

My biggest bug bear in management was those nationals that had to be told to work constantly rather than do nothing , other true workers didnt like them neither.The same ones always took sickies as extended holidays during the school holidays.I would have replaced two of them with one hard worker given the chance , immigrant or national , and gave them overtime instead only for the lazy staff to complain they never got any ot unless it was when it only suited them.

Another inferrence that immigrants work harder than UK nationals, i am sick to death of hearing how immigrants work harder than us, it BS, we have worked hard in this country to give us the lifestyle we would like, we have supported the unions, and the unions have supported us, in making sure we get a fair days pay for a fair days work, yet it seems many seem happy for all these hard fought rights to be discarded, simply because immigrant labour is prepared to work for less, without adhering to the (sensible) health and safety laws employed by this country.

ultra10

sporedude wrote: »

Just because you are black does not mean you arent British. And usually when foreign criminals are released they are deported, So that Romanian gman will probably be sent back.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127084/80-foreign-murderers-welcomed-Britain-Albanian-killers-allowed-stay-despite-Interpol-wanted-list.html

More "Enrichment" from the Labour / Marxists :rolleyes:

StevieJ

ultra10 wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127084/80-foreign-murderers-welcomed-Britain-Albanian-killers-allowed-stay-despite-Interpol-wanted-list.html

More "Enrichment" from the Labour / Marxists :rolleyes:

Begs the question - why is he complaining?

The scandal came to light when Albania's chief of police complained that 100 criminals from his country have been granted British citizenship and now live here.