Clown's adminstration tottering - election soon?

tomstickland

Even if it is, they aren't going to be thanking Gordon Brown for it.

The only thing that will make them change their mind is when they realise that the Conservatives are the nasy party. Hang on a minute, who did McBride work for? Who orchestrated the arrest of an opposition MP?

How about "it might be bad with us, but it'd be worse with the Conservatives".

That'd the "no more boom and bust" meaning "no more tory boom and bust".
Thanks to Stephen Timms for clarifying that one.

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amcluesent wrote: »

ED BALLS, the schools secretary, used Damian McBride, the disgraced spin doctor, to smear ministerial rivals and advance his own ambitions, a Downing Street whistleblower has claimed.

You have deceived me, Mandelson's rages at Brown over Balls' secret 'spin cabal'

THE VILE website at the centre of the vicious plot to smear top Tories was set up with the help of the boss of the Labour Party, the News of the World can sensationally reveal today.

'Smeargate' is 'final nail in Gordon Brown's political coffin' as scandal triples David Cameron's poll lead

Meanwhile, Britain has to cope with the legacy of 10 awful years of tax'n'bungle thanks to Clown.

I hope they never make you chancellor as its 12 years not 10 :rotfl:

1984ReturnsForReal_2

woodbine wrote: »

I hope they never make you chancellor as its 12 years not 10 :rotfl:

The first 2 years was spent congratulating & slapping each other on the back.

Cannon_Fodder

I'm sure I am not the only one getting mightily confused with exactly what the Govt will be claiming credit for...


Mar/Apr 2008 - Chancellor denied possibility of a recession. Insisted growth would continue through whole of 2009. Despite US entering a "modest recession", somehow he thought we could escape. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7338056.stm

July 2008 - Chancellor continued to "dismiss recession talk" http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jul/03/oil.recession

This was despite the 2nd Quarter 2008 figures being flat - 0% GDP (if we believe their rounding!) - surely he would have clues coming through from ONS/BoE to tell him which way things were going...?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7789844.stm

Oct/Nov 2008 - Chancellor downplays coming recession, PBR forecasts Summer 2009 recovery. "I, too, am forecasting that output will continue to fall in the UK, for the first two quarters of next year. But then, because of decisions taken in this Pre-Budget Report, I expect it to start to recover."
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/prebud_pbr08_speech.htm

Apr 2009 - now forecasts are hitting 2010 as the earliest recovery date...which Labour supporters are desperately clinging onto, saying "see the policies have worked"...

The 1990/1 recession was 5 quarters. This one is now pretty certain to hit 6 quarters, if the latest predictions are any good, which they must be the way Govt and their supporters are pointing to them for vindication - and if the revisions of Mar/Jun 2008 GDP should NOT be counted. 8 quarters if they should.

And yet credit is somehow due to these people?

I just don't get it. And nor do they.

Wookster

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

However, look 12 months down the line with the economy in recovery

Recovery? haha

You're kidding yourself. Unemployment will still be rising and we'll still certainly be in recession.

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

with a clear choice between Labour and the Tories on economic direction (public spending vs cuts ssentially)

We all know that spending cuts are essential. It is impossible to sustain the quantum of the current deficits. Prudence is not a concept that Labour understands - they simply throw money at things, hoping it will solve the problem, and with scant regard as to how efficiently it is spent.

I also think you're misunderstanding the scale of anger towards the likes of Jacqui Smith, Tony McNulty, Geoff Hoon et. al. Despite you thinking that they have behaved in accordance with the rules the public is seething at being raped by these bunch of corrupt, arrogant liars.

I for one will be opening champagne when this authoritarian, patronising government is out of power. It cannot come soon enough.

Rochdale_Pioneers

Wookster wrote: »

We all know that spending cuts are essential. It is impossible to sustain the quantum of the current deficits.

You won't need to sustain the current deficit. It has been caused by tax receipts crashing as we enter recession - it gets fixed by tax receipts increasing as we exit recession. The quicker you start to grow the quicker you balance the budget and stat paying off debt.

And shock horror the policies appear to be working.

Jonbvn

Wookster wrote: »

I for one will be opening champagne when this authoritarian, patronising government is out of power. It cannot come soon enough.

I may change my signature line to this!

Cannon_Fodder

If policies are working, why will he need to do this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8007482.stm

"Chancellor Alistair Darling is expected to announce some £15bn of spending cuts over the next few years when he delivers his Budget statement."


Trying to steal Tory ideas as usual...after rubbishing them for months.

That'll really impress the electorate.

Wookster

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

You won't need to sustain the current deficit. It has been caused by tax receipts crashing as we enter recession - it gets fixed by tax receipts increasing as we exit recession. The quicker you start to grow the quicker you balance the budget and stat paying off debt.

And shock horror the policies appear to be working.

Lets have a think shall we.

The forecast is for 900,000 jobs to go this year, 500,000 next year.

What do you think these figures alone will do for public spending?

When do you think tax receipts are going to start rising again? Even if there is a technical recovery next year (which I think its just laughable) then probably not for another 3-5 years at least.

And then there's the problem of financial services shrinking permanently as a result of this little mess - that's a few billion pounds of revenue permanently gone.

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

Time2Go_25

The labour government will do all they can over the next 12 months to make sure they can't win the next election, that way they can leave the country in a mess and all the difficult decisions to the Tories.