UK Stockmarket 2009 and beyond

tradetime

I'd wonder if platinum would take a hit now the "Cash for clunkers" type programs are winding down, it got a lift when they first were announced.

Simulators are good for testing things out from a purely mechanical perspective and I for one find them beneficial, a lot of people knock simulated trading and paper trading because it is unrealistic from an emotional perspective, but as long as you know that and use them for what they are good for then they can save you a lot of time and effort.

chopperharris

I have sat wondering about the whole idea of the september lull , a historical fact that markets drop in this period.

What we have seen is huges losses on indexes , and stimuli , what is to prevent this from being the first time that this yearly event simply wont happen?Or indeed displaced?

turbobob

I agree Chopper, theres no guarantee that what might have happened in the past will be repeated. We can speculate but all you can really do is react as it happens.

sabretoothtigger

Its just something to chew over and maybe spit back out if it dont taste good
Theres no way things like that are really accurate by themselves and thats a good thing or computers and big moneymen would take all the profits working the stats and facts.


Old video from march 10th, guy calls the bottom and relevance is that he talks now about market topping out in article link below - doug kass
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1058495388&play=1
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10470393/1/kass-printing-an-important-market-bottom.html
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10590765/1/kass-market-has-likely-topped.html





Shanghai returns closer to its lows for the month


China's stimulus shows the problem of success
China's massive government investment programme is worsening the overcapacity problem while its cash injection is creating asset bubbles. To achieve a sustainable rebound, China needs to strike a fine balance between crisis management and structural reforms, writes Yu Yongding
http://link.ft.com/r/S4XZQQ/F28ZM/XGPUZ/D05IX/21KUQ/OS/h

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Am I the only one with `normal` stockmarket shares, ie everyday boring ones?

Anyway I am glad I got back in as the portfolio is whizzing along. I am honestly thinking that maybe ukx will go through 5000 after a bit of playing about

mark13

what do you call boring... ? ? even the water utils took a big hit recently

cashbackproblems

I currently scrapping together a few k to put into PMK (plus markets), which is an alternative exchange for companies (especially aim) with new firms trading with plus daily (check their website for volumes) and alot of the big banks have holdings in it so theres talk of there being a t/o by barclays/hsbc soon. Also as the global economy recovers plus is a great base for these companies wanting a foothold in the UK to use.

The companies future vision is to use PLUS as an open market for EU companies, i dont think the company currently has the capabilities to do this, but its successfully increasing its customer base and building the foundations and will be ready in the future for one of the big boys to either t/o or merge with.

DO your own research but remember this name and within 6-12 months i can say i told you so!

sabretoothtigger

My water util consultancy hyder has gone up since it went ex-div, they got a new contract apparently. Theres been worries about regulation cutting prices I think, maybe that explains uu also

uk_steve

Early today my advisory broker on a none official chat away from my 7k portfolio i have with them said we may be in a new bull market and its just started *a long rally could be ahead of us*

now this has got me thinking dam i have bailed out on a lot of stocks:rolleyes:


so i am thinking of re entering the market again if this may be the case

Away from the stock market i have noted
i am now seeing nearly every property i rejected/dismessed to buy due to price tag a mth or two ago
(ARE NOW SOLD)
i had a good drive around my area today even poping over to other towns are a lot of sold signs again

Speaking to a friend in the car game on the phone has seen a small increase on sales and 2nd hand car parts

the other thing i have noted lenders are now lending more on BTL in the last mth as well (i have a mail out from a mortgage broker every week)


how can all this be thinking outloud to myself ?


when the facts are more people are unemployed now

this is a headscratch and hand on chin time for Steve :think:


my view maybe i should poor back in say 33% of my 100k remortgage next week
with the view i have another 67% cash sitting if it does slide back the other way

then i have the best of both worlds on the stock market

ie if it goes up? then i am in now,also after re looking at my gains i have earned in the last 5mths on the stock market the 33% remortgage amount
is like re putting in about 60% of my total gains this year.

So if it goes wrong its not the end of the world
easy come, easy go, is the saying

if it goes in a bear market at least i can top up my holdings on my limit orders to maximize my portfolio with the view to wait for the next rally
to combat the losses above



as i say i have a lot of thinking to do this weekend:cool:

sabretoothtigger

Dont let anyone over advise you on this. Anything anybody says here or anywhere else more official even, it still only matters if you think it does

Could someone convince you to like Iron Maiden music if you didnt previously.
You might have a good listen if they say so but should someones opinion really matter more then whether you actually like that music or not. If you dont like it then their opinion doesnt matter more then yours and dont change your mind just because its money not music.

I think you are the buyer and what and how much you pay is upto you totally.

so i am thinking of re entering the market again if this may be the case

Theres always something cheaper then it should be I figure. I dont know about the market in general but I wouldnt dump everything for that reason.
Go on the individual companies worth and whether you feel its cheap or not, the market direction is icing on the cake really.
A good stock will weather the storm imo especially when it was undervalued for some reason

Some stocks are actually more expensive now then summer of 2008 and some are half price still, either one could be worth it depending on future prospects




Intel went up 5% today on a good sales report. $20 now, still worth it I reckon but not really undervalued any more like it was

I'm adding BG and Centrica to watchlist just to think about them maybe. The chart for centricia looks attractive? They just pulled off a canny deal apparently and were tipped I think
I added CAIRN ENERGY previously also but cant even remember why now :laugh:

Centricia is a definite maybe it seems to me, bit of a gap in price volume but they've had a nice run already and might easily turn back at 270. Decent yield it appears.
Wish I'd bothered to check this last week but a reasonable prospect to consider
Some negative consumer press recently also I think




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