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Advice needed please - Interview with police on Tuesday

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  • Anihilator wrote: »
    Well no if the OP was so innocent why not take all her complaints all the way and get publically cleared and all records of it cleared?

    Instead she takes a payoff and leaves it all on file.

    Because as pointed out in this thread, the ET is not a place to get justice. It is there to put in in the same financial situation if I had not been dismissed.

    Why would I want to go through the ET when the OP wanted to settle?
  • robredz
    robredz Posts: 1,602 Forumite
    Anihilator wrote: »
    Well no if the OP was so innocent why not take all her complaints all the way and get publically cleared and all records of it cleared?

    Instead she takes a payoff and leaves it all on file.


    Sometimes it is the best call, as the added stress may not be worth the bother. The fact they have settled is in itself indicative of holes in the employers case so they make an offer to settle, as there may be things on their side they may not want aired in public. We cannot infer any guilt on acceptance of a settlement. She may have won and been awarded more by a tribunal, she may have been awarded less, or lost, but that's the call she had to make, it isn't easy especially if there are family and other factors to consider.
  • Uncertain
    Uncertain Posts: 3,901 Forumite
    Anihilator wrote: »
    Well no if the OP was so innocent why not take all her complaints all the way and get publically cleared and all records of it cleared?

    Because no civil case can "clear" anybody nor can it pin blame or guilt on either party. It simply decides if "on the balance of probability" somebody should be awarded any compensation.

    Also an ET decision does not even set a precedent for future cases. Only an appeal, on a point of law, can do that.

    Finally, nobody is obliged to prove their innocence. They have a right to be treated as innocent unless the guilt is proved "beyond a reasonable doubt" in a criminal court.
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    Anihilator wrote: »
    Well no if the OP was so innocent why not take all her complaints all the way and get publically cleared and all records of it cleared?

    Instead she takes a payoff and leaves it all on file.
    Why bother? It is becoming patently clear that the state records are a load of tripe. In which case, a clean state record is worth zilch. I think we would do better and be safer to value people on who they are than on the state's record. I have no doubt your state record is clean, Anihilator, but you would do better to care about how people assess you than to be bothered about the state record.
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  • robredz
    robredz Posts: 1,602 Forumite
    Uncertain wrote: »
    Because no civil case can "clear" anybody nor can it pin blame or guilt on either party. It simply decides if "on the balance of probability" somebody should be awarded any compensation.

    Also an ET decision does not even set a precedent for future cases. Only an appeal, on a point of law, can do that.

    Finally, nobody is obliged to prove their innocence. They have a right to be treated as innocent unless the guilt is proved "beyond a reasonable doubt" in a criminal court.

    Well there we are, the Anihilator annihilated. Seriously one must be very careful with assumptions of guilt, especially if they are ill founded. The police farces have learned that to their cost, Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Cardiff 3, Stephen Downing, and other high profile fit ups spring to mind.
  • rupee99
    rupee99 Posts: 242 Forumite
    Anihilator wrote: »
    Well no if the OP was so innocent why not take all her complaints all the way and get publically cleared and all records of it cleared?

    Instead she takes a payoff and leaves it all on file.

    You really have no knowledge of the law or its processes and continually demonstrate this by what can only be called rambling rants on this forum.

    The OP has reached a settlement, it is usual in such situations for the terms to remain confidential. It is rarely at the insistence of the plaintiff. It is usually because the defendant, in this case the OP's former employer, believes that they will lose at a hearing and IT does not want any shortcomings that may lay itself open to future action by others coming to light.

    On the balance of probabilities, if you insist on continuing to take such an absurd position, i.e. cast aspertions on the basis of your own prejudices but no evidence whatsoever, they should be against the OP's former employer, but they would be as equally groundless as almost everything else you write.
  • robredz
    robredz Posts: 1,602 Forumite
    edited 17 February 2010 at 8:10PM
    @ rupee99 post #491

    No further comment required, Anihilator pwnd

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  • Liz3yy
    Liz3yy Posts: 1,301 Forumite
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    Anihilator wrote: »
    Well no if the OP was so innocent why not take all her complaints all the way and get publically cleared and all records of it cleared?

    Instead she takes a payoff and leaves it all on file.
    y'know....one day, YOU-yes YOU! Will be wanting advice from folk on here and when your backed into a corner guess what theyre all going to say??????
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  • Just to say glad it all turned out in the end. I worked in management in care and one of our workers was in a similar situation. Our organization was supportive though and eventually the carer was cleared. He had worked in care over 20 years and found himself in two separate situations. One of the sons of an elderly patient was an ex police officer and made the carers life very difficult. A good carer was lost and this is one of lots of incidents I could report from different care organizations. Carers are made particularly vulnerable especially when working alone in the homes of the elderly with so much red tape and pitiful wages. I wish you well. Rachel x
  • Glad you got a good result
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