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Advice needed please - Interview with police on Tuesday
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wigglebeena wrote: »Doesn't want to commit himself in writing so he can deny anything inconvenient? Can you take a witness?
He said in the letter I can take a union rep or a work collegue. Im not in a union and there is no-one at work I have previosuly spoke with regarding this.
Ive just wrote the following letter which I will email to him later.In relation to our telephone conversation today I would again like to air my concerns.
I asked you the purpose of the meeting on Thursday 24th September and you advised it was only to tell me the decision of the appeal.
I have also requested to be informed of the decision in writing, either email or post as per our previous correspondence; however you stated you will only do this when you have time.
I appreciate that you are a busy person, but I would again like to highlight the importance of this decision and also advise of you paragraph 28 of the ACAS codes of practice –“Employees should be informed in writing of the results of the appeal hearing as soon as possible.”
As you had made the decision by Friday 18th September as this is when you sent me the letter advising of the meeting, I feel disappointed that you could not advise me of the decision at this point.
I would like to advise you that I will not be attending the meeting with yourself on Thursday 24th September. Instead as per my statutory right I would like to be informed of the decision in writing as soon as possible. Should you need to speak with me in person after I have received the letter, providing you are not upholding the original decision then I am more than willing to attend. My reasoning for this is that as per the company procedure, the decision of the appeal is final. If you are upholding the original decision then nothing said can alter this decision.0 -
Bloody hell! I'm gobsmacked!
I've just read the entire thread and two things spring to mind 1) how carelessly a client can shatter the life of a carer for reasons best known to themselves. People lie, !!!!!!!! 2) how nasty the minority of trolls online are!
OP - I admire you for appealing but I'd be tempted to tell the MD that I think he's acted disgracefully and you no longer want to work for someone who you can't respect!
Keep your head held high, missus!0 -
Thanks for your reply.
Its been going on for so long now, I just cant wait for everything to be finally over.
Even if I was given the option of returning to the company, I wouldnt. Ive spoken to acas and they have advised me of alternative options if the decision did go that way.0 -
Just wanted to offer you my support. What an awful thing to go through and the fact its dragged on so long is horrible."There is no medicine like hope, no incentive so great, and no tonic so powerful as expectation of something better tomorrow." - Orison Swett Marden0
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Good luck sexyeyes. I've been wondering how this worked out for you.0
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Good luck sweetie.Mags - who loves shopping0
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Thank you everyone.
I sent the email this morning and within 30 minutes I had receive a phone call from the MD!
He said that since yesterday he had sought advice and has been advised he can tell me the decision over the phone. The purpose of the meeting on Thursday is to RE-INSTATE ME!!!
His words were "You can come back and work in the office, and once we have built up enough trust you can go back into the community"
I said I would like this in writing prior to attend the meeting, so he has agreed that when he has a few minutes today he will put it into an email.
Im just trying to find out my options now, as there is noway I want to return back to this place of work after everything that has happened and the way I have been treated. But its great news all the same!0 -
Wow now that is a turnaround...
The fact that he has offered you your job back though may just be a way for him to avoid a ET though - sorry to be a negative.
It sounds like he has finally come back to his senses and got some proper advice.
"build up some trust" if theyre reinstating you then surely that means they agree that you didnt do anything wrong and so why would they need to build up any trust - sounds more like he thinks if you do go back he will hang over your shoulder being a unreasonable (but within ET/legal) !!!!!! and bully you out that way. If you dont accept the offer then anything from ET is reduced I imagine and you get nothing if you go back - he's a toss-pot in the 1st degree.
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Ive got a feeling this is to avoid the ET claim as well, and I said to my partner if I did go back he would probably find a way to get rid of me.
Ive spoken to ACAS and asked what effect this would have on my ET claim if I didnt want to go back, and they advised that it shouldnt make a difference. All they look at is whether people have been reasonable. In fact they said it may assist as he is saying you shouldnt have been dismissed in the first place by offering re-instatement.
Im awaiting a call back from the ACAS department that deals with claims once they are at the ET stage to see what sort of package I could negoitate with him instead of re-instatement.0 -
Just received the following letter via email. Still trying to get my head around it!Following our telephone conversation this morning I am sending this letter by email as agreed.
I refer to the Appeal Hearing held in the Officeon 24th October 2009.
The hearing had been arranged to consider your appeal against the decision to dismiss you on the grounds of “Some Other Substantial Reason” (SOSR), namely that given the nature of the industry we are involved in, and the vulnerability of the clients, we could not take the risk of allowing you to go back to work as a carer when suspicions existed about your involvement in two thefts from clients.
You were given every opportunity to explain why you were appealing against the decision. I have considered carefully all the facts presented and listened to and taken account of your comments.
I am satisfied that the matter was dealt with in accordance with Company Policy, and I uphold the decision that we can not allow you to go back to work as a carer in the circumstances. However, I would like to offer you as an alternative the opportunity to work in the office instead, for your contracted 20 hours per week, on the same terms and conditions as you were previously employed on.
I would like you to attend the meeting arranged for Thursday 24th September so that I can explain to you in person the previous decision of dismissing for SOSR and my final decision, and discuss how you feel about working in the office instead and how this would work in detail. The meeting will also give us an opportunity to discuss any other issue that you feel will need further attention.
If you are happy to return to work in the office, you will be re-engaged with immediate effect, with no break to continuity of service.
I should make clear that any further allegations regarding your honesty, or conduct in relation to clients, will be dealt with via the disciplinary process, and may lead to dismissal.
For the avoidance of doubt, this concludes the Company’s Disciplinary and Dismissal Procedure and no further stages are available to you.
I am sending you a copy of this letter by post but please let me know if you will attend the meeting on Thursday as soon as you receive this email.
Yours truly0
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