Advice needed please - Interview with police on Tuesday

uberalles

onlyforboards wrote: »

This makes no sense at all and as a result you are expected to take a drop in hourly rate.

I would want to know how this matter has been recorded in your file. It seems he still believes you stole the items but is giving you a job out of charity. That is not the way to resolve a disciplinary matter.
Has he given you any idea of how you will be proving yourself as trustworthy, how long it will take and what will happen if you fail to do so?

He is not making you a reasonable and secure offer to return to work.

I concur with most of that except the bit in bold.

It comes across to me as if he is trying to dig himself out of a very deep spot without both losing face and also ACAS getting involved.

If it were me, I would not let him do either.

All the best to you sexyeyes83

onlyforboards_2

^ I meant he is treating her as though he still believes it and that is no good for sexyeyes83 no matter what he really thinks or what his motives are.

sexyeyes83

Following our meeting today you requested some details to be put in writing before you are able to decide whether to return to work in the office.

• You will be contracted to work in the office only for 20hours weekly.
• You will attend duties 3 days a week – 2 days 0900 -1700 and 1 day 1000 – 1700
• You will be notified of your shift on a weekly basis.
• You will be required to relieve other office staff whenever he/she is on holiday, sick, attending meetings, courses and other engagements.
• You may be required to attend your duties as emergency cover.
• Your holiday entitlement will be based Pro Rata on your contracted hours.
• Your salary will be on an hourly rate at £6.50 after your induction period, your induction period will be at £6 per hour.

I enclose a copy of the Job description as you also requested.

I look forward to hearing from you.

This is a letter I had attached to an email I received on Thursday after the meeting. In the actual email he said the Job description would be sent to me on Friday - which he didn't send.

You will attend duties 3 days a week – 2 days 0900 -1700 and 1 day 1000 – 1700

He knows I cant do these hours as my partner works shift work and since I started with the company I could only work 0915 - 1430 because of the school run

You will be notified of your shift on a weekly basis.

Again this is no good because of the hours

You may be required to attend your duties as emergency cover.

Again I cant do this. He said I might be scheduled to work he Friday, but I could receive a call Thursday morning asking me to go in instead.

Your salary will be on an hourly rate at £6.50 after your induction period, your induction period will be at £6 per hour.

My previous salary was £7.05

I sent an email back saying:

In relation to the meeting I attended today I am still unclear on a few facts.

You state that you are upholding the original decision of dismissal, you then state that you wish to offer me a position in the office with the same terms and conditions I was previously employed on and with no break to continuity of service.

Can you confirm whether this position is re-instatement on the same terms and conditions and continuity of service as mentioned in the letter dated 22nd September or whether this is a new employment with new terms and conditions and no continuity of service.

If you could confirm this in writing either via post or email it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

As yet, ive heard nothing back.

blue_monkey_2

Did you speak to ACAS again following this? If not make it your priority on Monday morning. I'd look at resigning with immediate effect and then going to tribunal for constructive dismissal. Let us know what ACAS say.

unluckyone

sexyeyes83 wrote: »

This is a letter I had attached to an email I received on Thursday after the meeting. In the actual email he said the Job description would be sent to me on Friday - which he didn't send.

He knows I cant do these hours as my partner works shift work and since I started with the company I could only work 0915 - 1430 because of the school run

Again this is no good because of the hours

Again I cant do this. He said I might be scheduled to work he Friday, but I could receive a call Thursday morning asking me to go in instead.

My previous salary was £7.05

I sent an email back saying:

As yet, ive heard nothing back.

Just spent over an hour reading through this read.
I went through a very similar ordeal, it ruined my life.
I will respond to you in more detail.

blue_monkey_2

unluckyone wrote: »

Just spent over an hour reading through this read.
I went through a very similar ordeal, it ruined my life.
I will respond to you in more detail.

I found another thread online, are you the person who worked for 15 years as a carer to go the same thing as this OP did??

Sexyeyes, I would suggest that this is not a continuation of service but a new emplyment contract - you have been given new hours for a start, a continuation would see you on the same hours and wage. What hours does your last contract state.

Just look forward to leaving now and screwing them for all that they owe you. Maybe that boss will not be so bloody self pompus in the future and realise that he cannot treat people like that. I doubt it though. Good luck.

unluckyone

blue_monkey wrote: »

I found another thread online, are you the person who worked for 15 years as a carer to go the same thing as this OP did??

Sexyeyes, I would suggest that this is not a continuation of service but a new emplyment contract - you have been given new hours for a start, a continuation would see you on the same hours and wage. What hours does your last contract state.

Just look forward to leaving now and screwing them for all that they owe you. Maybe that boss will not be so bloody self pompus in the future and realise that he cannot treat people like that. I doubt it though. Good luck.

Hi blue_monkey,

No not that carer. I'm just new to the forum.

unluckyone

unluckyone wrote: »

Hi blue_monkey,

No not that carer. I'm just new to the forum.

are they allowed to call it "reinstatement" if they are giving you a new set of employment facts.
and if it is a new employment offer then really, they are not actually answering your appeal are they?
you should get there outcome in writing, ask how they came to their conclusion, there should be an outcome for each of your appeal points i would imagine.
they can't just play this by ear which is what they seem to be doing.
this is a persons life.
where is horrifiedreader - what do you make of this latter part?

sexyeyes83

Thanks for all the replies, they really are appreciated.

Someones mentioned that because of the new terms ive been offered and knowing that I cant do them, im being constructively dismissed.

I did speak to one person and they said that because I was told in the original letter that it would be on the same terms and conditions and with no break to contunity of service, this appears to be reinstatement rather then a new job starting from scratch.

If that is the case, I may have a claim for indirect sexual discrimination because he knows I can only work school hours as I have done for the past 18 months. By only offering the new hours, he knows I wouldnt be able to accept.

Thats why I sent the email above to confirm whether this was re-instatement or a new job.

Everythings starting to get a bit confusing now and unfortunatly weve checked all our insurance documents and we dont have any legal cover. Were tempted to give the coop a call and see what they can offer on the no win no fee basis.

ohreally

Why didn't you join a trade union back in May?