Housing crisis. Number 10 apologises over tory slur e-mail

A._Badger

Zagu wrote: »

I don't think that's true at all. Blogs are rumour mills full of gossip, but this is in a completely different league, and is far removed from the usual tit-for-tat point scoring.

And where do you suppose a lot of those rumours and smears come from? Very frequently, they are morsels dropped into the piranha tank by paid activists.

As to this being in a completely different league - it is, but a lower league than that infested by the two geniuses of the black arts - Mandelson and Alistair (don't mention Dr Kelly) Campbell.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

benood wrote: »

You seem to be missing the fact that McBride was a civil servant - So we've all been paying for him to work for Labour - once proven he had to go.

These proposed smears are pretty outrageous I reckon, even from a partisan viewpoint. It makes all the 1997 demon eyes stuff seem pedestrian.

Labour are using millions of tax payers money for PR & Propaganda.

Zagu

A._Badger wrote: »

And where do you suppose a lot of those rumours and smears come from? Very frequently, they are morsels dropped into the piranha tank by paid activists.

You really think that I'm unaware that it happens? The difference is that, firstly, this has been revealed to come straight from one of Brown's closest strategists, and not "an inside source", or "a high ranking official", and secondly, they are far more vindictive than any other fabrications that I can remember. This is closer to resembling a celebrity/tabloid relationship than it is a political one.

Without the combination of those two aspects, it would probably pass almost unnoticed.

A._Badger wrote: »

As to this being in a completely different league - it is, but a lower league than that infested by the two geniuses of the black arts - Mandelson and Alistair (don't mention Dr Kelly) Campbell.

I think you're heading straight into a new can of worms with that one, so I'll leave it there.

Graham_Devon

One of the tories is getting her lawyers involved. They would probably have a case to be honest.

amcluesent

>They would probably have a case to be honest.<

Let's not forget it's our taxes that Clown has been using to pay the scum like McBride and he's a civil servant not a paid lackey of the Party.

He should be arrested on suspicion of committing misconduct in public office! The elements of misconduct in public office are:

a) A public officer acting as such.
b) Wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself.
c) To such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder.
d) Without reasonable excuse or justification

I wonder if anyone in the Met will dare cross their political masters, even the dimmest copper can see it's all over for Clown?

1984ReturnsForReal_2

amcluesent wrote: »

>They would probably have a case to be honest.<

Let's not forget it's our taxes that Clown has been using to pay the scum like McBride and he's a civil servant not a paid lackey of the Party.

He should be arrested on suspicion of committing misconduct in public office! The elements of misconduct in public office are:

a) A public officer acting as such.
b) Wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself.
c) To such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder.
d) Without reasonable excuse or justification

I wonder if anyone in the Met will dare cross their political masters, even the dimmest copper can see it's all over for Clown?

He is not the only Labour Party Propaganda Feeder being paid for out of the public purse.

Millions are being spent for party purposes.

FungusFighter

The McBride resignation speech in full here, gotta read it:beer:

Rochdale_Pioneers

None of this is new. Now is simply the first time that many people outside the system, or who don't keep up with the political blogs, are seeing what goes on.

And it is disgusting, whatever Labour apologists might pretend.[/QUOTE]

I agree - it is disgusting. If I was the apologist you had in mind you will note that at no point have I defended smear campaigns - I pointed out as you have that they are nothing new.

Nor are they a New Labour intention - in the past the smears were made by government ministers against Matrix Churchill directors or NUM officials.

And they're always a sign of either arrogance or desperation. In this case both.

nickmason

There's an interesting read here, from June 07, about Brown's inner circle:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6240362.stm
with hindsight, it's pretty clear that the spinning was going underground, beneath a veneer of good behaviour.

DAMIAN McBRIDE
He was Mr Brown's spin doctor at the Treasury, having taken over from Ian Austin. He is likely to remain in the background as an adviser, briefing editors and selected journalists.
It will be his behaviour, rather then Mr Ellam's, that is most likely to set the spin-or-no-spin tone of the new administration.



MIKE ELLAM Mr Ellam is the prime minister's official spokesman, taking over from Tom Kelly who took over from Alastair Campbell. But forget any return to Campbell-style briefings, Mr Ellam is a civil servant through and through.

And another observation; Brown was a past master at this sort of stuff when in opposition. Now it's about plausible deniability; something that has got very flimsy with this latest scandal.

amcluesent

Seems that Iannucci's 'The Thick of It' will serve as a near-documentary on the lies-as-policy and top-to-bottom corruption of NuLabour.

Will we ever look back and wonder how we allowed so many decent British men and women to have careers ruined because, for Clown and his bully-boys, the easy smear of 'racist' was such a convenient way of silencing those who protested at his wrecking of England?

And how many of our servicemen and women are in their graves as result of Blair/Clown demanding an 'initiative' to see them through a tricky 48 hours with the Sunday papers?

“I wasn’t lying on purpose” - a fine epitaph for 'the project'.